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I'm looking at a '02 Adventure and I was just wondering what the deal with the stater motor problem is.
It's got 25000 miles on it,hard panniers.
Asking for 3850 Euro.
Any opinions?
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Hi there - I've had an '02 adv for 18,000 miles and counting and haven't had a problem with the starter motor itself ... just the occasional flat battery from lack of use.Mine kicked overpretty easily as well, as long as there was some charge left.... oddly ,the kicker won't work if the battery is completely flat (thereby defeating it's purpose, to my mind).Anyway ,have a look at the 'thumpers' thread on advrider for a more detailed discussion.Apologies if I've taken you're thread off on a tangent!
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oddly ,the kicker won't work if the battery is completely flat (thereby defeating it's purpose, to my mind).Anyway ,have a look at the 'thumpers' thread on advrider for a more detailed discussion.Apologies if I've taken you're thread off on a tangent!
More off-topic... but check the same thumpers section on advrider for the solution to the kicker not starting without battery. You have to unplug the headlights if I remember correctly.

Congrats on the new bike cathal! It's a darn great machine!
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[quote=2cvfred;213017]More off-topic... but check the same thumpers section on advrider for the solution to the kicker not starting without battery. You have to unplug the headlights if I remember correctly

had a look but could not find any more on starting on a flat battery, would realy like to know if it can be done?
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Have a good look at the index page at: KTM LC4 (640) Thread Index - ADVrider

It is packed with information on LC4's!

The one of interest to you is: Kick-starting LC4 with dead battery? - ADVrider

I haven't tried it myself though... the e-start is easier ;-) But sure is good to know when you are out in the sticks...

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Thanks for the advice. That Advriders website is good.
I put a couple of hundred miles up today and I have to say I'm impressed with its handling on fast twisties.
I have to say that the lights on my Tenere are far superior. That main beam is a joke.
I've been kicking it with no problems as the starter clutch sounds like it needs some TLC.
I also raised the needle one notch and disabled that solenoid that limits acceleration in 2nd and 3rd gear. It now pulls between 3 and 4k revs. I want to gear it to do 100kph at 4k rpm like my XT.
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I have an 02 Adventure, it had 11,000 km on it when I bought it 2 years ago, and have put 29,000 km since. I have never had a problem with the starter. I did have to replace the clutch main shaft bearing (the bearing behind the clutch). If the bike you are looking at has the old style ball bearing, it should be replaced with the new (03 and up) roller bearing. This is fairly easy to do yourself if you are moderately skilled mechanically, go to the KTM talk site for instructions. It does need to be done, don't wait for it to fail (like I did).
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Deal done
I am now the proud owner of a '02 640 Adv.
Swopped it for my '03 CCM R30 motard.
I feel it's a natural progression from my '90 XT600 Tenere.
I just hope that they get on together in my garage.
Now,I need to go someplace.
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I'm looking at a '02 Adventure and I was just wondering what the deal with the stater motor problem is.
It's got 25000 miles on it,hard panniers.
Asking for 3850 Euro.
Any opinions?
One well known problem an LC4 can experience at around 20k miles involves the breakup of the gear between the starter motor and crankshaft - is this perhaps the one you refer to?

It's not a hard fix, it simply means replacing that one gear and removing any metal swarf that will have been created.

One theory says that because it's a reasonably high compression engine, if you try to start it but fail, the kick-back from the piston is absorbed through the teeth of this gear, and that's what can cause the damage.

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