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the 690 is 135 kilos dry. The xtz tenere is 207 kilos? My bike loaded with the full fairing weighs the same as a tenere dry. 
The WP suspension is better.
As for reliability, I have 90,000 km on my 08 690 now. You are hard pressed to find a better bike out there. |
I'm giving serious thought to buying a 690. I would like the Rally fairing and the larger front tanks. If anyone has these (Rallyraid), how much does it add in weight (with / without fuel)? The main reason for the potential purchase is to have a lighter bike, so if it adds serious weight I might have to look elsewhere. Has anyone had any issues carrying luggage (hard / soft)? I'm not looking to take the kitchen sink, but neither am I looking to be a survival minimalist!
Also, how do people find them on motorway stretches? I don't want to do many, but there are times when A to B is useful . . . .
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Email Rally Raid they should have an exact weight for the kit.
I have the fairing coupled to a safari, although I am going to change it to EVO2 now as don't need the extra fuel capacity.
The fairing frame is ally, tanks plastic and fairing fibreglass. All in all it doesn't weigh that much. But obviously if you fill the tanks up then you will have the extra weight of the fuel.
Motorway isnt a problem if you get a good seat, and I'm not talking about the KTM comfort seat. Get a decent one, I did Magadan to London on the standard seat it was bad 
My friend had a custom seat and air hawk, no problem there.
We geared the front from 15t to 17t and they run well at 80+mph all day long.
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I'm giving serious thought to buying a 690. I would like the Rally fairing and the larger front tanks. If anyone has these (Rallyraid), how much does it add in weight (with / without fuel)? The main reason for the potential purchase is to have a lighter bike, so if it adds serious weight I might have to look elsewhere. Has anyone had any issues carrying luggage (hard / soft)? I'm not looking to take the kitchen sink, but neither am I looking to be a survival minimalist!
Also, how do people find them on motorway stretches? I don't want to do many, but there are times when A to B is useful . . . .
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Email Rally Raid they should have an exact weight for the kit.
I have the fairing coupled to a safari, although I am going to change it to EVO2 now as don't need the extra fuel capacity.
The fairing frame is ally, tanks plastic and fairing fibreglass. All in all it doesn't weigh that much. But obviously if you fill the tanks up then you will have the extra weight of the fuel.
Motorway isnt a problem if you get a good seat, and I'm not talking about the KTM comfort seat. Get a decent one, I did Magadan to London on the standard seat it was bad
My friend had a custom seat and air hawk, no problem there.
We geared the front from 15t to 17t and they run well at 80+mph all day long. |
Thanks - all this sounds excellent. What's the general mpg you're getting? Although my current bike is a little heavy, it does 60mpg easily; this is a real plus for overland travel!
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Didn't really calculate mpg but it was over 50, I suppose it just depends on how you ride 
I don't think they are quite as good as the xchallenge or 660 but I think they are more fun.
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Thanks - all this sounds excellent. What's the general mpg you're getting? Although my current bike is a little heavy, it does 60mpg easily; this is a real plus for overland travel!
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Thanks - all this sounds excellent. What's the general mpg you're getting? Although my current bike is a little heavy, it does 60mpg easily; this is a real plus for overland travel!
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Depends a lot on whether you are carrying a pillion or not. With a pillion it has been a little more than 5 l/100 km (little less than 55 mpg) on the motorway, a little less on small roads. Without it is usually around 4.2-4.3 l/100km (around 66 mpg). Mix of roads and relatively slow on the highway (110-120 km/h). I had it as low as 3.7 l/100km (76 mpg) on A and B roads riding leisurely on setting 1 (offroad setting, reduced horsepower). Offroad usually between 4.5 and 5 l/100 km). 2010 model btw.
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I'm giving serious thought to buying a 690. I would like the Rally fairing and the larger front tanks. If anyone has these (Rallyraid), how much does it add in weight (with / without fuel)? The main reason for the potential purchase is to have a lighter bike, so if it adds serious weight I might have to look elsewhere. Has anyone had any issues carrying luggage (hard / soft)? I'm not looking to take the kitchen sink, but neither am I looking to be a survival minimalist!
Also, how do people find them on motorway stretches? I don't want to do many, but there are times when A to B is useful . . . .
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Hi buddy, I don't know how true this is, but have been told that the Rally Raid fairing isn't so great at speed in wind, but I do have the EVO2 tanks fitted(weigh 4kg when empty), so with the extra fuel adds about 10kg. I do have the Rally Raid pannier frames, which are a bit heavy, but only use them for my Wolfman Expedition soft panniers and a duffle across the top, but I've now got my kit down to a minimum, so now just use a small Touratech rack and the GiantLoop Coyote, 20 litre Kriega bag. I can pick the bike up if I drop it, plus ride knarly stuff with very little difficulty. As for fuel range, it all depends on the terrain i.e. tarmac or mud/gravel. I'd say the the average range is 250 miles and i run 15 - 48 sprockets, so can ride 75mph on the motorways and still do the knarly crap.
Oh yes, is regards fairing, I went with the Lynx from Brittannia, as it had a really good dash layout that I could use(Garmin Montana, USB socket, 12v socket, heated grip switch, heated clothing plug) Plus I have 100 watt HID's fitted.
Let me know if you have more queries 
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"Its unreliable" they said. "Its a bad choice for a RTW bike" they said.
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I'm giving serious thought to buying a 690. I would like the Rally fairing and the larger front tanks. If anyone has these (Rallyraid), how much does it add in weight (with / without fuel)? The main reason for the potential purchase is to have a lighter bike, so if it adds serious weight I might have to look elsewhere. Has anyone had any issues carrying luggage (hard / soft)? I'm not looking to take the kitchen sink, but neither am I looking to be a survival minimalist!
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Rather irrelevant question really - how much is the weight of fuel and a bash plate is what you are really asking .., which is something that is going to be added to any bike - no matter the model.
I can guess though you can add the weight of a pannier type rack to the 690, - as by adding one you are bracing the the plastic fuel tank which is adopting the role of a subframe on the 690.
Without this fuel tank subframe brace (ie; the pannier rack which braces back to the passenger pedal mounting points) .., then don't expect the 690 to carry any loads that you could expect a big adventure bike to carry
The overall weight added by your question is not too much .., even a full KTM factory Dakar bike with the windscreen tower and all the extra fuel tanks / bash protection plates, LED spots and fairings etc only adds an extra 13 -15kg's if you don't include the Rally books, GPS, scotts dampener , and other fancy Rally specific electronics etc , or 'liquids like extra fuel and water.
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As an aside I've seen a couple of reports on facebook about repeated failures of 690 transmission shock absorbers. Anyone know if this is a Thing?
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it's not a really a question can 690 enduro or any other bike do Africa. Question is how many of say 100 of given bikes sent to Africa will return without a problems. The fact one or two did it like stated above doesn't say much to me, statistics what counts so you need a bigger sample to have true opinion on subject.
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it's not a really a question can 690 enduro or any other bike do Africa. Question is how many of say 100 of given bikes sent to Africa will return without a problems. The fact one or two did it like stated above doesn't say much to me, statistics what counts so you need a bigger sample to have true opinion on subject.
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That's true. Not many 690's crossing continents ... but many more riders going now than a few years ago.
Noah was one of the first to really ride a 690 serious distance ... but check out his post and his LONG LIST of repairs, breakdowns and failures during his extensive RtW tour. Suffice to say, his 690 was FAR from bullet proof ... and Noah knows what he's doing, good mechanic and very good about maintenance. IMO, an "average" rider would not do as well going LD on a 690.
Newer 690's seem better, more reliable. Thing that amazes me are the expensive Dakar look a like fairings regular punters put on their bikes. These things cost THOUSANDS ... just so you look like a racer?
So, you spend over $12K USD on the bike ... then four or five thousand more to upgrade fairing, lighting, bigger tank, luggage ... and suspension. There are whole huge threads on suspension upgrades for KTM 690's.
I guess it's not like old days, being an ADV Hippy now is not for low income travelers any more! 
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Surprised there's been no mention of Lyndon Poskitt so far. The Races to Places films give a good idea of what a 690 can do, and what repairs/maintenance might be needed!
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...aces+to+places
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as far as I know Lyndon's bike is ktm 690 Rally which is not exactly same bike as enduro R. Besides he has big support, any part can be shipped to him in few days.
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There's still a few of us about 
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