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LC 100 Diesel or petrol?
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are there any opinions wether to choose a diesel or a petrol car?
Reliability or other conserns appart from the cost of diesel vs petrol?
Any major difference in distance covered on a litre of diesel vs petrol?

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depends where you are taking it in the world but I would go diesel everytime. more economical, inherantly more relaible, safer to store fuel and fill from jerry cans.
I would only consider petrol if my main place of travel was to be eastern europe, then I'd get an LPG conversion
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other coments og views or does everybody agree with Moggy ?

also, would you prefer the 100 og 80 for a serious overlanding expedition (east africa and the arabian peninuslar to India..)

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Get the best vehicle you can afford with the budget you have and I would use diesel every time.

There are goods vehicles everywhere and they are mostly with the exception of some very cold places, diesel. it is also much safer to decant from cans.

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buy on condition not age and try to minimise the amount of electronics in the vehicle
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Diesel often increases your range for a given amount of fuel carried (my 101 with a petrol engine did 8 mpg, with a diesel 22mpg)

Diesel is a safer fuel to carry in cans I've seen photos of a jerrycan showering petrol 15ft when opened in the heat of the day, it'd only take a static spark .......... booom !
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LPG systems any good?
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I would only consider petrol if my main place of travel was to be eastern europe, then I'd get an LPG conversion
There are a few LC 80s that come up for sale regularly here in the UK that are fuelled with petrol and fitted with a LPG conversion. Often the LPG system has been fitted later in the life of the car; i.e. it is not a factory fitted LPG system.

What are the pros and cons of these vehicles compared with the other 80s?
(I recognise in this thread that most people prefer diesel, but LPG doesn't get mentioned again, after the quote herein).
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What are the pros and cons of these vehicles compared with the other 80s?
Cons against LPG that I come up with are the need for a second tank, the additional stuff in the motor compartment and the weight that comes with all this. Plus: more parts in the car equals bigger chance for failiure. And then there's probably the smaller chance to find a filling station that offers the right kind of LPG through the right nozzle (are they the same everywhere?). Diesel and petrol can be handeled in jerrycans and so you can buy from lorry drivers or locals. I've never seen this done with LPG.
At the moment I can't come up with pros.

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Overland diesel is likely easier to find than petrol. All trucks run diesel, no diesel = no commerce. In my travels there have been several times when petrol has been in short supply but diesel has been available.
And then there are countries like Lebanon. They do not allow private cars with Diesel engines and even the entry of tourists with them because they want to reserve all the Diesel they can get for trucks.

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Cons against LPG that I come up with are the need for a second tank, the additional stuff in the motor compartment and the weight that comes with all this. Plus: more parts in the car equals bigger chance for failiure. And then there's probably the smaller chance to find a filling station that offers the right kind of LPG through the right nozzle (are they the same everywhere?). Diesel and petrol can be handeled in jerrycans and so you can buy from lorry drivers or locals. I've never seen this done with LPG.
At the moment I can't come up with pros.



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Thanks Hans.
I had random similar thoughts (but with no experience of using LPG fuel) and you have summarised them nicely.
The channel tunnel company (sous la manche) bans vehicles that have LPG fitted which points toward the issue of leakage and the risk of explosion, especially the risk in confined spaces I surmise.
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The channel tunnel company (sous la manche) bans vehicles that have LPG fitted which points toward the issue of leakage and the risk of explosion, especially the risk in confined spaces I surmise.
So do most multi-storey car parks. The practice to exclude LPG cars from enclosed areas is not uncommon.

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And then there are countries like Lebanon. They do not allow private cars with Diesel engines and even the entry of tourists with them because they want to reserve all the Diesel they can get for trucks.

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I've never heard of that before.
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I've never heard of that before.
Well it's on the internet so it must be true!

But seriously - we drove a diesel LC80 through Syria in 07 and had to pay 100 USD a week diesel car tax. We didn't try entering Lebanon but got told we couldn't have got the LC in if we did. Apparently there used to be diesel cars in Syria (and Lebanon?) but a few years before the government had done a scrappage scheme to make them extinct, to prevent pollution.

Also, in 2009 this person did a similar trip and hit the same obstacle when trying to enter Lebanon - Jordan, Syria and Lebanon
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Hi,
are there any opinions wether to choose a diesel or a petrol car?
Reliability or other conserns appart from the cost of diesel vs petrol?
Any major difference in distance covered on a litre of diesel vs petrol?

Much appriciate any comments

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How long is a piece of string ?

You dont say what your intended usage !

with regard to L/C from my experience found that the petrol burns about 55% more than the diesel , unless you are really thrashing them and then the gap is a lot less, but for overland cruising then as majority say it has to be diesel .
reliability used to be diesel but due to all the electrickery in a modern diesel much of a muchness
also due same reason diesel has lost some of its fording superiority
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