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scrappage scheme - disaster !

my mate sells toyotas, mainly commercials

he was horrified the other day when he found a mint swb cruiser in the scrappage area, only 80k on the clock. His collegues had taken it in.

he points out that the cars being scrapped are very rarely the old bangers on the road but good often low mileage but old cars that have been looked after. People who run the bangers cannot afford to replace them with new cars. the owner of the garage actually refused to let one car go thru scrappage, it was a mint toyota starlet with 30k on the clock, the 1st the dealership had ever sold.

so i wonder how many other good motors that have been lost
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We're in the middle of scrappaging my wife's '99 Fiat Punto - it's been accepted and we've got about another month before the new car turns up. We've had this from new, it's done about 120K, has just passed another MOT with no serious problems and is / has been rock solid reliable.

Problem is that even with a new MOT it's worth about £250 on the open market but £2000 px'd against a new car - that we were going to buy anyway. The MOT tester had the same reaction as you when we told him why we needed it tested but what do you do faced with numbers like that?

The money we save will be needed to pay all those higher taxes that'll be arriving soon
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This scrappage scheme makes me sick. I don't own a car yet I have to heavily subsidise car factories and carowners. I don't like handing over my money for such people.
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it seems alot of the industry don't like the scheme either, but it can work well for those in position so i don't blame people for taking it up

it only benefits those that can afford or finance a new car, the government gives 1k and the manufacturer / dealer makes it up to 2k so you could probabily get that 1k anyway

but my concern here was the loss of good vehicles such as the quoted landcruiser and by all accounts alot of other classics and good vehicles have gone too.

he's going to keep a lookout for any more cruisers/hiluxes
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my concern here was the loss of good vehicles such as the quoted landcruiser and by all accounts alot of other classics and good vehicles have gone too.
Agreed.We had an MG Midget in for MOT a couple of months ago.It was a decent car,not like some or the rot box MGs that you see.The owner only wanted an MOT on it so he could send it for scrappage.

I have a thirteen year old shed of a Mondeo,it's probably worth about £400.It would be worth £2000 for scrappage but I do not want and cannot afford a new car,what good is the scheme to me?
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Why oh why oh why do cars have to be SCRAPPED under this scheme? Surely for some vehicles - like the ones you have talked about - the scheme should allow them to be sold, either overseas or to people who want them in the UK.

This wouldn't stop the scheme from working - what difference does it make to a customer whether their old car is scrapped or sold? All that matters to the customer is being able to take an old car to a garage and p/ex it for £2000 of the price of a new one. In some cases the s/h value for selling a car on would exceed the scrap value and make the scheme more economic in any case. France, for eg, has been selling its old cars to Francophone North Africa, rather then scrapping them, for years.
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