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I have been hear before but still unsure so any advice will be welcome.

Looking to travel around the world in a MB 1017A with an Ormocar Body.

The tyres I am looking to fit are 385 x 65 x 22.5.

I have looked at several types.

My journey will be mostly on roads, some bad roads and some off road, so the tyre has to have a long life ( on tarmac ) and some off road capability.

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has used such tyres and their opinions and what to avoid.

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I use 395/85R20 XZLs and am at least well versed in large truck tires.
In Michelin I would suggest XZY3, all the other treads have poor offroad capability, the XZY3 looks like it would also wear well on tarmac.

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I would prefer thinner profile than mud-grippers for a long trip, couple them with a decent air-compressor allows you to set pressures for sand and mud conditions. Wide tyres create road noise that can be annoying over long distances. Thinner profile brings a lot of lite-truck tyres into play in which there are 10-ply models. I swear by 10-ply, 8 minimum. If you plan a lot of sand driving get a set of bead-lockers.
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I would prefer thinner profile than mud-grippers for a long trip, couple them with a decent air-compressor allows you to set pressures for sand and mud conditions. Wide tyres create road noise that can be annoying over long distances. Thinner profile brings a lot of lite-truck tyres into play in which there are 10-ply models. I swear by 10-ply, 8 minimum. If you plan a lot of sand driving get a set of bead-lockers.
Did you read the original post? It is a 10 ton truck and he wants to run 385/65R22.5s, with a 4500kg load capacity per tire. 8 or 10 ply lite truck tires are totally inapplicable in his application.
These are 18 ply rated 42.4" tires. Are you suggesting he change rims and get 11R22.5s, which are the same diameter but in 14-18 ply have only a load capacity of 2750-3000kg/tire, maybe insufficient for his load?
And BTW the truck very likely has air brakes so it has a built-in compressor; an air outlet and filler hose are de rigeur.


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"Did you read the original post? It is a 10 ton truck"
sorry charlie my fault ,I did not check the model

That said , I still stand my belief that thinner profile last longer, on long distance, no matter what you drive.
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Ive used the Bridgestone M844F in this size on a 1017, pretty good wear and not too noisey, but if your heading for mud, sand and rock I prefer the Michelin XZL, tough as nails and great all rounder, the XZY 3 looks like a good compromise too and this or the Bridgestone will be better for the amount of time you will be on asphalt.

These guys are in the US, but will give you some idea of whats around:

Vans Tire - My Products

twobob, FYI the MB 1017 runs on dual rears normally, the 385 sounds wide, but is a good size to replace the horrible dually setup
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plug in 385/65R22.5 to see Michelin's European offerings.

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Many thanks for the advice .

I am leaning towards the michelin xzy3 or the Continental HSC 1

Both look like very capable tyres that would suit my needs.

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Hi Neil

The Conti is more of a road biased closed tread design, better grip on asphalt, the ZXY 3 has an open tread and would be marginally better off road.

Did you read this post :

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ide-base-60397

Maybe ask him his opinion on the XZY3 as he has them fitted to his MB
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Thanks Gipper

I have been in touch with Arno on other matters so I will contact him

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