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Hi Soma; just to be clear.....you're asking for funds from people, and asking for a free bike from a manufacturer for this trip, because you have not yet visited these African countries.
You tell us it's not only for fun, this trip. You say it is interesting to do the trip by bike. I'm sure you're right there.
My best wishes on your fundraising.
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Hi Cami;
I don't need another bike because I have three bikes:
1. BMW R1200 GS Adventure, 2007: Every day, long trips, Offroad,.. all
2. Husqvarna TE410E, 2001: To practice Enduro.
3. Vespa TX 200, 1998: For sale.
Well, it's easy to understand it. Just only need to read my presentation without so much distrust. Maybe my english is not 100% correct, but I'll try to explain better:
I want to know Africa and write a jornal trip focusing on contrast the African style and the Western style. ( Equipo | Ride To Roots)
There are a lot of charities organizations in Africa. Many of them show the hypocrisy of the world we live in. I have good feelings with Riders For Health and trust them initially. I was invited to see their work. This is a part of Africa, charities, and I want to know also this part.
The idea of this project is to get money from those who have money. It's important to get cooperation of the brands because it's a way to accept some responsibility for what happens in Africa (we are all responsible), and in a world where economic power seems to play the biggest role. The motorbike will be for Riders For Health and all funds from the rest of the sponsors too. I will not get the bike free (it would be great!), but in exchange for advertising on the internet media. This is my work.
I have on pre-selling the trip journal (ebook). People how buy now the ebook collaborate with the project. This money will be used to help me get to Cape Town with the motorbike. People is free to do it. Could it be otherwise? ( Colaboradores | Ride To Roots)
I'm a sporsor of my project, developing the website and promoting it through internet. Also searching sponsors to get the most money. ( Sponsors | Ride To Roots)
I've always wanted to visit Africa, and there are different ways to do it. I have decided on this way because I want to provide help, and I think this is a good way to start. It is certainly not sufficient.
I hope now everything is clearer. But, if it is not clear yet, I'll try again to explain better, It's part of the project.
Thanks for your comment, Caminando!
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Originally Posted by somaLEE
Hi Cami;
I don't need another bike because I have three bikes:
1. BMW R1200 GS Adventure, 2007: Every day, long trips, Offroad,.. all
2. Husqvarna TE410E, 2001: To practice Enduro.
3. Vespa TX 200, 1998: For sale.
Well, it's easy to understand it. Just only need to read my presentation without so much distrust. Maybe my english is not 100% correct, but I'll try to explain better:
I want to know Africa and write a jornal trip focusing on contrast the African style and the Western style. ( Equipo | Ride To Roots)
There are a lot of charities organizations in Africa. Many of them show the hypocrisy of the world we live in. I have good feelings with Riders For Health and trust them initially. I was invited to see their work. This is a part of Africa, charities, and I want to know also this part.
The idea of this project is to get money from those who have money. It's important to get cooperation of the brands because it's a way to accept some responsibility for what happens in Africa (we are all responsible), and in a world where economic power seems to play the biggest role. The motorbike will be for Riders For Health and all funds from the rest of the sponsors too. I will not get the bike free (it would be great!), but in exchange for advertising on the internet media. This is my work.
I have on pre-selling the trip journal (ebook). People how buy now the ebook collaborate with the project. This money will be used to help me get to Cape Town with the motorbike. People is free to do it. Could it be otherwise? ( Colaboradores | Ride To Roots)
I'm a sporsor of my project, developing the website and promoting it through internet. Also searching sponsors to get the most money. ( Sponsors | Ride To Roots)
I've always wanted to visit Africa, and there are different ways to do it. I have decided on this way because I want to provide help, and I think this is a good way to start. It is certainly not sufficient.
I hope now everything is clearer. But, if it is not clear yet, I'll try again to explain better, It's part of the project.
Thanks for your comment, Caminando!
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Thanks Soma. I think I understand your post and project very well actually; you describe it very clearly. and I wish you the best of luck. Your English is excellent, better than some native speakers.
I mentioned the free bike because you wrote that you would ask Yamaha and others to donate a bike which you would then give away, after your trip is ended and you have looked at all the things you want to see and visit. I sincerely hope you will get a bike from one of these companies; they may find that your publicity is useful to their sales.
I can't fully agree that in Europe etc people have lost values ( after all, you are asking these same people to give you money) , values which are still found in Africa. I invite you to look at the history of post-colonial Africa, for example Cote d'Ivoire, Rwanda, Congo, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Sierra Leone, Nigeria and many more. In fact, I met many African refugees in Madrid recently and had interesting talks with them. But after your trip perhaps you will be able to confirm your views, which I will be happy to read about.
I look forward to hearing in the future about your project to know Africa, to raise awareness in Spain, and also your good success in getting cash and a bike, as well as all the places and people you visited on your travels around Africa.
Gracias a la vida!
Buen viaje!
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Originally Posted by Caminando
Thanks Soma. I think I understand your post and project very well actually; you describe it very clearly. and I wish you the best of luck. Your English is excellent, better than some native speakers.
I mentioned the free bike because you wrote that you would ask Yamaha and others to donate a bike which you would then give away, after your trip is ended and you have looked at all the things you want to see and visit. I sincerely hope you will get a bike from one of these companies; they may find that your publicity is useful to their sales.
I can't fully agree that in Europe etc people have lost values ( after all, you are asking these same people to give you money) , values which are still found in Africa. I invite you to look at the history of post-colonial Africa, for example Cote d'Ivoire, Rwanda, Congo, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Sierra Leone, Nigeria and many more. In fact, I met many African refugees in Madrid recently and had interesting talks with them. But after your trip perhaps you will be able to confirm your views, which I will be happy to read about.
I look forward to hearing in the future about your project to know Africa, to raise awareness in Spain, and also your good success in getting cash and a bike, as well as all the places and people you visited on your travels around Africa.
Gracias a la vida!
Buen viaje!
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Well, I hope to visit a lot of places and meet a lot of people. I think I deserve it. Bring all these things in a project and achieve all the objectives requires effort. Nothing is free, it's always necessary dedication. But I decided to do it this way, because I have hope that everything will go well and that will help me and others. I'm happy to do it.
Yes, I've read about post-colonial Africa. There are a lot of politics and many outside interests. I see everything I read with a certain distance.
I live in a part of the Catalan coast where there are many Africans, especially from Senegal. When I travel by train many times I talk to them, also to people from Ethiopia, Zimbabwe and Kenya. The economic crisis in Spain is serious. Over 20% of the Spanish population is unemployed. Now people, in Spain, are beginning to worry about things that had already forgotten. Before, worried if they could buy all the things they wanted ... a good house, an expensive car, the latest in technology ... Now many people are beginning to worry that their children can eat every day. The act of eating is a core value.
Why is the plundering of resources in Africa? It be that all this technology that produced and consumed in rich countries, is due in part to the theft of the resources of the second largest continent.
So I think that Africa has much to say. I'm not talking politics, I mean people. There is much to learn from that continent.
The collaborators of the project know that. It means something that people involved in this. It's also significant that major brands will help with money to Riders for Health. This doesn't fix the world, but it helps to be aware of some things. It's only one more step.
I'm sure I may talk about many things when I've known Africa by myself.
Thanks for your good wishes!
Visca la vida!
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Interesting thread.
Not sure how exactly the peoples of Africa benefit from your adventure. Sounds like a simple "jolly" to me. Nothing wrong with that of course except the rest of us normally pay for this from our own pocket.
What I don't understand is why someone like me would want to pay for your "jolly" when I'm still saving up for my own?
Perhaps like you I should design a website and organise my trip as a charity event. That way I can get some mug to pay for it....
Nevertheless I wish you well.
Stay safe.
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Interesting thread.
Not sure how exactly the peoples of Africa benefit from your adventure. Sounds like a simple "jolly" to me. Nothing wrong with that of course except the rest of us normally pay for this from our own pocket.
What I don't understand is why someone like me would want to pay for your "jolly" when I'm still saving up for my own?
Perhaps like you I should design a website and organise my trip as a charity event. That way I can get some mug to pay for it....
Nevertheless I wish you well.
Stay safe.

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Well kentfallen, like everyone else, you are free to do and think whatever you want. But, maybe you don't understand this project. It's not only "my trip". I also I have to pay my bills, but this does not stop me to organize a project like this or do other things.
I might be working to have more money for me, however I spend many hours to this project. I do it because I prefer it.
I invite you to check back to read the whole thread, maybe you'll understand better.
Anyway you can help by publicizing the RTR project through Facebook, twitter and other forums.
Thank you!
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personaly, I think the most appropriate way to provide any kind of support to Africa is just to visit places ad spend your money there, particularly with village shops and traders. This helps to promote commerce, entrepreneurship and injects newmoney into the region.
There is a great deal of free aid, money and western services being injected into Africa which only benefits the charity workers, NGO organisations and deprives Africans of the opportunity to do things for themselves - hence they never get the start they would wish to build thier own economies and catch up.
Not knocking your plans by the way, good luck to you, and hope you get a bike! (by the way, might be worth bearing in mind the kind of bike you take if you plan on donating it - you may be leaving them an expensive problem if it's a BMW, Yamaha or KTM, spares/tyres may not be obtainable?)
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