Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Middle East
Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey - carnet required, o stamp in passport? Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey - carnet required, o stamp in passport?
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts
Middle East Topics specific to the Middle East countries, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen, Oman and the Emirates
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 23 Feb 2008
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 67
Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey - carnet required, o stamp in passport?
Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey - Is a carnet required, or do they just put a stamp in your passport for the motorcycle?

Thank you.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25 Feb 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Genova, Italy - Kabul, Afghanistan
Posts: 201
Carnet is mandatory in Egypt, convenient in Syria. Probably needed in Lebanon as well, but I'm not sure.

Anyway, forget Syria (and Libya and maybe Lebanon) if you have an Israeli stamp on your passport, or even a stamp from a border crossing in a neighboring country leading to Israel.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 25 Feb 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 147
Just save Israel for last! I managed to visit Israel without getting a stamp in my passport, but I also had to leave my bike in Jordan to make it work (there's a post here somewhere on that topic.)

And take Chris Scott's advice from "Sahara Overland" regarding the question of travel to Egypt... Don't go! If you ignore this advice, you definitely DO need a carnet. You also need lots of patience and good sense of humour.

As for the other countries, I used my carnet for all of them, but I'm not entirely sure if I needed to. It makes things easier, though.
__________________
Jeremy Kroeker
www.MotorcycleTherapy.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 25 Feb 2008
ozhanu's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Izmir, Turkiye
Posts: 794
definately no carnet is needed for Turkiye. you just need insurance which you can buy at the border for 15-20 Euros.
__________________
ozhan u.
website under construction
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 26 Feb 2008
beddhist's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Whangarei, NZ
Posts: 2,214
Correct, but if you have a carnet you can save money in TR by presenting it on entry.
__________________
Cheers,
Peter.

Europe to NZ 2006-10
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 26 Feb 2008
dnicoletti's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: milan, italy
Posts: 156
carnet is mandatory, for egypt only!
not 4 turkey (low fee insurance at the border), sirya (30eu. nov.2003), jordan (same as above), and lebanon (get in throug damascus).
u can get in israel w/out any stamps on your passport. but only if you planned to go out by sea or what else. dont go back to sirya, even u haven't
passport signed, there it will be a void of time to explain to the siryan custom...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 3 Mar 2008
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 67
Thanks. But if I get the bike on my passport in Israel, then exit to Jordan, then take the ferry to Egypt, then get a new passport issued from the embassy in Cairo without an Israeli stamp, is there any reason why I should have a problem then going back to Jordan, and then to Syria?

If Jordan does not require a carnet, then my carnet will show I exited Egypt at the Jordan crossing. Then it will show that about 6 weeks later I entered Egypt at the same crossing. I could have been in Jordan the entire time. My new passport will be issued in Egypt, and only show Egypt and Jordan before I go to Syria.

What is the problem with this solution?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 15 Mar 2008
dnicoletti's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: milan, italy
Posts: 156
there is not any problem if "loose" your first passport, and have enough
time to wait for a new one in Cairo. in my case, with five weeks only to reach the Red sea and back to italy, every single day it count...

Have a nice trip.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 15 Mar 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Berkeley, CA USA
Posts: 312
Quote:
Originally Posted by dnicoletti View Post
there is not any problem if "loose" your first passport, and have enough
time to wait for a new one in Cairo.
Check around here, but I'm not sure that's true. I'm pretty sure Sudan does not take passports less than six months old because of people using this trick. I don't think Syria does either.

For ages, Israel has been stamping a blank piece of paper, but if you have a stamp from the border to Jordan, they are going to know what's on the other side of that bridge and not let you in. I recently read here that Egypt will stamp a blank paper when you leave and arrive from Isreal. If that's true, then that's the way to go, but you better make sure.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 18 Dec 2008
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
  
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 2
Is there a problem if your passport is stamped with a Syrian stamp and crossing the border from Jordan to Israel?

If not, I will go from Turkey to Syria and Jordan to Israel and by ship back to Europe comming summer.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 20 Dec 2008
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 147
It's not so easy to ship to Europe from Israel anymore. (Nothing is impossible.) If you want to enter Israel with no stamp in your passport you can do it via the King Hussein Bridge, but you'll have to leave your bike in Jordan. You'll also have to leave Israel AND Jordan before your Jordanian visa expires.

Sigh. I've posted on this topic so many times on other thread's that I no longer have the energy to repeat myself. The point is, you CAN visit Israel and continue through Arab countries, but it requires a little luck and careful planning (I've done it! And I know others who have done it!).

And, yeah, the "loosing your passport" trick has been done to death. It's tough to get away with these days. (Nothing is impossible.) Too bad.
__________________
Jeremy Kroeker
www.MotorcycleTherapy.com
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 6 Feb 2010
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: on our bike!
Posts: 24
Passport Stamps at Jordan/Syria Borders
Hello hello,

We are a couple planning a route to go from UAE to Jordan/Syria through Saudi Arabia with one motorcycle. We are looking for possible ways to store motorcycle in Jordan/Syria, fly back to UAE, and return to it a couple months later to continue on our trans-Europe trip. And we don't plan to get a carnet de passage as it drives up cost.

Does anyone out there know for fact what stamp they put in the passport when crossing into Jordan and/or Syria? We heard that they write down vehicle information which means we cannot leave the motorcycle behind. Has this happened to anyone?

Sorry if this question has been answered somewhere else, but I've searched and can't seem to find a solid answer.

Many thanks,
Shu
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 8 Feb 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: May 2007
Location: London
Posts: 621
Can't answer for Syria or the UAE, but we entered Jordan with our Landcruiser through Aqaba and then left it at the Allenby Bridge border crossing when we did a cheeky little side-trip into Israel - no issues at all. Re the passport stamp thing, you can ask the Jordanians to stamp you out on a separate piece of paper, and the Israelis to do the same thing - that way the passport doesn't show 'exited Jordan at Allenby Bridge' nor 'entered Israel'.
Reply With Quote
Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Egypt - Jordan - Syria - Turkey off road pistes wanted demito Middle East 5 23 Apr 2011 15:12
The turkey to egypt though israel and back problem ryanclark11 Middle East 1 30 Jun 2004 06:44
Carnet Lebanon Syria Jordan jamieT Trip Paperwork 0 25 Jun 2004 20:54
Do Turkey, Cyprus, Israel, Syria & Jordan stamp your passpor gipsy Travellers' Advisories, Safety and Security on the Road 6 27 May 2002 06:38
Turkey syria jordan egypt...... chiacchio Travellers Seeking Travellers 2 10 Apr 2002 19:58

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27 2025
Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
CanWest: July 10-13 2025
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21 2025
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

Your ad could be here, on EVERY page of the HUBB, or the whole website, or as many as you like!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 17:37.

Contact Us - Horizons Unlimited Motorcycle Travellers Website - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top