I have posted this question in one form or another on other threads, but haven't heard much response, so I will summarize my thoughts here.

The 'middle eastern' leg of my trip will be entering from Turkey to Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and then Israel & Palestine, and I would like to go back out the way I came. I am clear on visa and other information for every leg of the journey except the last one.

Once in Jordan, I can obtain a double entry visa from the embassay in Amman, or possible when entering the country. This will be what I need when coming back via King Hussein Bridge which does not provide any visa's. When exiting Jordan at King Hussein Bridge, I will need to ask the border guards to put the exit stamp on a piece of paper, something which they may or may not do. I will have a quick letter translated into arabic stating my intentions, and will be as friendly as possible to increase my chances.

Once leaving Jordan, I will now be entering Israel where again, I will have to ask the border to put the entry stamp on a piece of paper. Here, I will have a letter translated into Hebrew stating my reasons, which this time will say that I plan on continuing my trip to other Arabic countries that will deny me entry etc, as well as my plans in Israel, where I will be staying etc. Again, I have to hope that they choose to do me a favour, and stamp the piece of paper.

All this will have to be done in reverse when exiting Israel via the King Hussein Bridge in order to assure that there is no written record of me being in Israel, or leaving Jordan when I get back up to Syria.

So, is there any limitation to doing this with your bike? What would be the difference if you were on foot? How comfortable are people with leaving their bike at a garage in Jordan, probably for over 2 months? Costs?

Does this scenario seem plausible if all goes smoothly. If I manage to get out of Jordan with the exit stamp on a piece of paper, but then am refused a stamp on paper when entering Israel, can I go back into Jordan? There is a valid reason to not want an Israel stamp on your passport - because you want to go to other arabic countries. But what valid reason is there for not wanting a Jordanian exit & entrance stamp in your passport? Will they not know right away what you are trying to do if you ask for the stamp on a piece of paper, and would they care in order to protect Syrian interests, or are they likely to be ok with it and stamp outside the passport.

I know this question has been asked, and I have read the information as well as called the embassy's for all 3 countries here in Canada, but I would really like to get concrete and more recent information. Again, thanks to all you wonderful Hubbers, this really is an amazing community. Hopefully if some of these questions are answered here, it can become a useful thread for others trying to go in and out of Israel via Jordan and Syria with their bike.

Hi - we did this in 2007 with a Landcruiser at Allenby Bridge border crossing:-

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...-lebanon-33352

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...passport-42400

The impression given was that even if the Israelis had turned us away because of the not wanting our passports stamped issue, the Jordanians would have been fine about it. After all, what difference does it make to them whether you come back in 1 hour or 2 months once they've stamped you out?

This whole passport stamp thing is a load of bullsh1t anyway. Tony Bliar (or any other Western politician/diplomat) can get into any Arab country no problem with an Israeli stamp in his passport. Given that politicians and diplomats have a lot more to do with the Middle East's problems eg Bliar and Bush killing 100,000 Iraqis in an illegal war about WMD that were never there, why should it be tourists who get hit with this rule?

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Thanks for your response, Ilesmark. I see your point. Also, the second passport is definantly something to consider. I thought about it before, but for some reason thought I couldn't get on (Canadian). I am now leaving for Europe in 3 weeks, but maybe I can get the process started, and finish it through mail/local embssay's/reletives in Toronto.

Just to clairify, your expereince differs slightly in that you left your landcruser at the Allenby Bridge (aka King Hussen), and went into Israel on foot, is that correct? What was long term parking there like? Saftey for a bike? Cost? Did you leave it there because you had to, or wanted to?

Thanks

Hi Thomas

I wouldn't worry about getting a second passport for this purpose (although Israel / Arab countries was one of the justifications for me getting mine) - that thread was only included for the Allenby bridge border crossing info. What the rules are for Canadians getting a second one I wouldn't know.

We left the Landcruiser at a little car park. From memory, it was on the right near the Jordanian border post as we approached the crossing - we asked around if there was a place to park and it was where we were sent.

This place wasn't hugely expensive but it was fenced off. I can't comment on how good it would be for a bike full stop, or indeed for a Landcruiser for 2 months! We chose to park there and cross by foot because we were only planning to stay for 2 days and because we weren't sure about avoiding incriminating stamps on the carnet, to say nothing of getting insurance for Israel and the uncertainly about whether we'd be let into Israel at all.

At various points on our trip, we preferred to park the car and let someone else do the driving and this was one of them.

Mark

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Riding in is still my first option, as I would like to do some riding in the country along with my other plans there. Parking in Jordan is a good fallback plan although two months seems like a long time to park it there. If I get refused the stamp at Israel border, I can just drive back and set up the long term parking. My main concern is that any potential theif might see it there day after day after day, and thus consider it as a good target. Who knows...

At least I now know that someone has successfully got all 4 stamps on seperate pieces of paper. I won't be the first to attempt it. Thanks for the great information, very helpful. I'm open to other thoughts aswell if anyone else has experience.

previous reply to a previous post:
"December 2008:
Came to Syria through Gaziantep, then to Jordan, from Jordan to Israel, through King Houssein border, which is the northern border. I got refused on the Jordan side, and had to go back to Amman to get a paper from some kind of administration, to allow me the border crossing with my bike.
So, back to the same border.
Getting in:
I managed to get a stamp on a separate piece of paper on the jordanian side. Israel border: surreal. Gun pointed at me - because I had lights on. Then 5 hours of inspection and questionning, because of the syrian visa ("why do you have a syrian visa?" I got the world map out of my bag... No joke. I had to explain that lybia is not that easy, and Irak not easier... "Do you have a return plane ticket?" My bike was parked right in front of her...). I managed to get a separate stamp for me, but NOT for the motorcycle (you don't need a carnet, but the importation of the vehicle is marked in the passport itself). The stamp is either in english or...in hebrew.
Getting out:
Much easier on the Israel side, for I knew everyone there. Surreal again (shaking hands, talking for hours about the travel, life in israel and so on). Managed to get the stamp on a separate paper. For the vehicule, same again: stamp on the passport - quite big this time.
Jordan side: I explained everything ("please do not stamp the passport, I'm going back to Syria, etc" "aïwa, aïwa, no problem"). No problem until I had to put my hand between the carnet and the stamp. He stamped my hand. Then looked at me, intrigued, and then sorry, when he realised what he was about to do.
Happy ending.
I went back to Syria, then to Turkey and Iran. Nobody suspected anything. Somebody I met on the road had to argue that the stamp for the exit of the israelian territory was a stamp from cambodia. It took some time, but it worked."

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