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Hi. Great photos. Me and a friend are thinking of heading that way next year. Any good tips, info etc would be great. What are the weather conditions like around Lake Van at the mo and in March/April? Happy riding.
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Hi. Great photos. Me and a friend are thinking of heading that way next year. Any good tips, info etc would be great. What are the weather conditions like around Lake Van at the mo and in March/April? Happy riding.
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Definitely check out http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/country/turkey for very useful and pertinent information.
I was in Van a month ago (late October 2009) and it was slightly chilly but quite wet - had a nice week-long rain parade...
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Hi. Great photos. Me and a friend are thinking of heading that way next year. Any good tips, info etc would be great. What are the weather conditions like around Lake Van at the mo and in March/April? Happy riding.
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Winter can be really cold with snow. Main roads are ok.
For moderate adventure: do a circle through Naxcivan, Iran, Iraqi Kurdistan, back into Turkey.
For Turkish Kurdistan (Hakkari road) you need really good nerves.
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Winter can be really cold with snow. Main roads are ok.
For moderate adventure: do a circle through Naxcivan, Iran, Iraqi Kurdistan, back into Turkey.
For Turkish Kurdistan (Hakkari road) you need really good nerves.
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'good nerves', please expand?
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'good nerves', please expand?
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The road from Van via Hakkari to Cizre (and the Iraqi border) is 400km through a hot military zone. There is not much in the news about this area, but don't underestimate it. 30 military checkpoints with VERY nervous soldiers.
The perceived level of "danger" here is much higher than in Northern Iraq, Iran or the rest of Anatolia.
P.S.: Road is half gravel, half tarmac and a very small "rough section" in between (shallow river crossing; deep potholes). But doable in 2x4 car.
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The road from Van via Hakkari to Cizre (and the Iraqi border) is 400km through a hot military zone. There is not much in the news about this area, but don't underestimate it. 30 military checkpoints with VERY nervous soldiers.
The perceived level of "danger" here is much higher than in Northern Iraq, Iran or the rest of Anatolia.
P.S.: Road is half gravel, half tarmac and a very small "rough section" in between (shallow river crossing; deep potholes). But doable in 2x4 car.
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 wanna go by bike thro turkey, iran, pak to India. what 'safe' route would you suggest thro the first 2 countries?
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The road from Van via Hakkari to Cizre (and the Iraqi border) is 400km through a hot military zone. There is not much in the news about this area, but don't underestimate it. 30 military checkpoints with VERY nervous soldiers.
The perceived level of "danger" here is much higher than in Northern Iraq, Iran or the rest of Anatolia.
P.S.: Road is half gravel, half tarmac and a very small "rough section" in between (shallow river crossing; deep potholes). But doable in 2x4 car.
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More than Northern Iraq? Not really. Have been in both of the countries. It is not a fair comparison.
I woul be much more concerned about the wheater. The area is very high and gets lots of snow dirzzle etc.. From late spring (may) to early fall shoul be prefered.
One late rider who went from Istanbul to India, has informed the main roads were mostly 2 lane divided asphalted in easterne Turkiye. Of course there are lots of gravel, dirt paths which can be taken.
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Those really are great photos.. What sort of camera did you use? I need to upgrade my 12 year old Sony to something more modern that will store more than 5 photos on a disk
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These pics are awesome.
"Road to Sunrise" has just begun the new desktop wallpaper of my computer at office.
Thanks for sharing!
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Thanks guys, really I adored country and people. Camera is a 5y old Fuji Fine Pix pro S3 DSLR (takes Nikon lenses). Yes could still be snowy, as much of it is high up and passes are up to 2600m. And I am not sure whether I was just lucky with the weather. But east and south becomes desert country, receives a lot less rain than Black sea coast.
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Thanks guys, really I adored country and people. Camera is a 5y old Fuji Fine Pix pro S3 DSLR (takes Nikon lenses). Yes could still be snowy, as much of it is high up and passes are up to 2600m. And I am not sure whether I was just lucky with the weather. But east and south becomes desert country, receives a lot less rain than Black sea coast.
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Manfredschweda,
Thank you for sharing photographs and your comments about Turkey and Turkish people.
Best All,
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but on a more light-hearted note: regional and global tension will only come to an end when governments everywhere finally provide us with free fuel and knobbly tyres, and once and for all ban all types of helmets, except of course those little wee pink ones !!!
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