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Is it really so difficult to go round the Med
If you travel thru Israel you can't enter Libya.

So how do you travel round the Med without all this red tape, or is it just a matter of luck at the border? Our trip goes thru Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco....but its looking like we must drop some of these places.

Given the conflicting information on entering, crossing and leaving Libya from either direction, would it make sense to just wait until we get to the border at Libya/Egypt to get a Visa...have the cash needed, arabic translated passport and carnet?

Put differently, if we satisfy these conditions, what can we expect at the border.

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When entering Israel you can ask in the border not to stamp your passport with the Israeli stamp, they will stamp a separate paper taht will be attached to your passport and when going out they take it away. You can skip Israel by going from Aqaba Jordan on a ferry to Egypt (Sinai), and it will still be called Rownd the Med

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In the case of exiting from Jordan to Israel, it is also important to have NO exit stamps in the passport, as the travel route could be reconstructed.

The border Algeria - Morocco is completely closed. To my knowledge, motorbikers are not allowed to enter Algeria if it's not an organized tour.

You should plan very well for Libya (guide needed) and check recent information, things seem to change and back again. Contact a libyan agency, if necessary.

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the only place you can cross into israel without a stamp in your passport is the king hussain bridge. that's the good news. the bad news? it's a pedestrian bridge. in other words, you'll have to leave your bike in jordan while you visit israel (for about 1JD per day) at a secure parking lot. i did this a few months ago and got through without problems (although, at the israeli border, they claimed that they no longer stamp a separate piece of paper... this is not true, but it's at the discretion of the border guard.) for libya, you can get a transit visa... but it's very difficult. it's way easier to arrange a guide (which is expensive). don't use Medussa Tours, in my opinion. from libya, you can visit tunisia, and then take a ferry to france or italy.
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Excellent info thanks. I suppose it comes down to just going and hoping we get into Israel with stamp NOT on the passport and then out again and if that works... Hopefully when arriving at Egyptian / Libyan border they dont guess that we have been in Israel. We would use a guide in Libya, have already contacted a couple of tour guides there.

If they deny us entry then we will have to then change plan and somehow get from Alexandria to ???wherever....

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As I see it the problem with going around the Med is that you have to drive with a guide in Libya and Algeria. You will have a long way to go from Algeria to Morocco but beside the problems with guides it’s a nice route. I don’t know how safe the area around Arlit/Agadez is right now but it’s a stunning place.

You will also miss the greatest part of Libya (the south) and the best parts of Algeria.

If there are traces of Israel in your passport or carnet you will not be able to leave Egypt or Jordan overland.
This also goes for entry/exit stamps from Jordan/Egypt to Israel.
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