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There probably aren't any ferries from the Gulf to India.
Clearing the customs in Mumbai could be interesting.
Is Balochistan really so dangerous now, and why?
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Hello Pecha72,
Is clearing customs in Mumbai a hassle? I mean is it full of scams or pretty straight forward with the normal delays that occur inthis part of the world?
Balochistan is having a bomb blast or police men killed almost on daily basis. I mean a bomb exploded on Shia bus only a few days ago. MY biggest problem is that although I am willng to go through Balochistan no one else is, Therefore If I do cross I will be completely on my own, Not knowing what sort of reception I will be getting I was thinkin of alternative route via ferry.
Although there have been no attacks on forign people lately, Visiably I look asian, So I am unsure if I will be treated like a forigner or local person and how each of that will have effect on me, I mean will they not offer me a escort because I appear to look asian? Also will be better off this way because I do blend in with the locals so anybody who has issues with forigners will think am a local and spare me? The only thing that would give it away is my british number plates.
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Balochistan is having a bomb blast or police men killed almost on daily basis. I mean a bomb exploded on Shia bus only a few days ago. MY biggest problem is that although I am willng to go through Balochistan no one else is, Therefore If I do cross I will be completely on my own, Not knowing what sort of reception I will be getting I was thinkin of alternative route via ferry.
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Hi;
When are you heading that way? I'm hoping to do Baloch next August/Sept time. I can't promise a solid date though. There will be quite a few other people crossing tbh mate, about a million Germans... not everyone crossing through baloch posts on this site... imagine if they did.. it'll crash...
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Hi;
When are you heading that way? I'm hoping to do Baloch next August/Sept time. I can't promise a solid date though. There will be quite a few other people crossing tbh mate, about a million Germans... not everyone crossing through baloch posts on this site... imagine if they did.. it'll crash...
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I am looking to start through Europe on 1st April 2013, I am looking to be crossing Iran/Pakistan border roughley 10th April 2013. This date will only depend on if I get my Iran visa's in time which I am applying end of January. They are only valid for three months so I have to apply late as possble to keep it within 3 months.
I could postpone and do it in September but unsure If i will be able to get time off from work. Securing this leave was massive hassle in itself.
So do you think its a busy crossing and most german tourists use it?
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Hello Pecha72,
Is clearing customs in Mumbai a hassle? I mean is it full of scams or pretty straight forward with the normal delays that occur inthis part of the world?
Balochistan is having a bomb blast or police men killed almost on daily basis. I mean a bomb exploded on Shia bus only a few days ago. MY biggest problem is that although I am willng to go through Balochistan no one else is, Therefore If I do cross I will be completely on my own, Not knowing what sort of reception I will be getting I was thinkin of alternative route via ferry.
Although there have been no attacks on forign people lately, Visiably I look asian, So I am unsure if I will be treated like a forigner or local person and how each of that will have effect on me, I mean will they not offer me a escort because I appear to look asian? Also will be better off this way because I do blend in with the locals so anybody who has issues with forigners will think am a local and spare me? The only thing that would give it away is my british number plates.
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Hi Blessings,
Local law enforcement people in Pakistan make sure tourists dont get in the wrong places, however if you wanna be more carefull you can take a train accross Balochistan. They are not great but work and you can travel in them with your bike,
About the abducted Swiss couple; they were kidnapped in an area where even I wont go neither the local police would let me go. How they reached there is a big question mark sounding dubious.
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Hi Blessings,
Local law enforcement people in Pakistan make sure tourists dont get in the wrong places, however if you wanna be more carefull you can take a train accross Balochistan. They are not great but work and you can travel in them with your bike,
About the abducted Swiss couple; they were kidnapped in an area where even I wont go neither the local police would let me go. How they reached there is a big question mark sounding dubious.
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Omie,
Sorry I forgot to mention I will be driving the route so a Train is not a option. I will be taking my own car. Also although I can get escort I am unsure if it better with or without as I look asian I also have a NADRA ID card for pakistan as both my parents are pakistani. ( i am born an bred in the uk)
I was thinking If I can blend in as local person then I would have the least amount of problems but thats in theory unsure how it will be in reallity. Also the area where the swiss couple got kidnapped was Lolarai, is that a no go area for locals an police?
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Omie,
Sorry I forgot to mention I will be driving the route so a Train is not a option. I will be taking my own car. Also although I can get escort I am unsure if it better with or without as I look asian I also have a NADRA ID card for pakistan as both my parents are pakistani. ( i am born an bred in the uk)
I was thinking If I can blend in as local person then I would have the least amount of problems but thats in theory unsure how it will be in reallity. Also the area where the swiss couple got kidnapped was Lolarai, is that a no go area for locals an police?
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Oh, I see. Driving to Pakistan from Europe can be a fantastic experience. I did it twice in the eighties and still cherish its memories. Dont miss it.
I would suggest you to take it easy and drive accross if your name isnt highly suggestive of your sect. Lately the problems seem to be arising out of communal problems and Shias appear to be on the receiving end.
We tried to drive last year to Fort Monroe from Multan and were checked many times. Local officials discouraged us and denied flatly Canadian friend working in Pakistan. Poor guy had to go back. Loralai is a few hundred kms further ahead.
Driving in Balochistan might have risks with law and order or terrorism but greater risk is with the traffic, might be worth taking.
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Oh, I see. Driving to Pakistan from Europe can be a fantastic experience. I did it twice in the eighties and still cherish its memories. Dont miss it.
I would suggest you to take it easy and drive accross if your name isnt highly suggestive of your sect. Lately the problems seem to be arising out of communal problems and Shias appear to be on the receiving end.
We tried to drive last year to Fort Monroe from Multan and were checked many times. Local officials discouraged us and denied flatly Canadian friend working in Pakistan. Poor guy had to go back. Loralai is a few hundred kms further ahead.
Driving in Balochistan might have risks with law and order or terrorism but greater risk is with the traffic, might be worth taking.
Cheers
Omar
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Thanks Omar,
My uncles did this in the 70's which whats inspired me, my name is not suggestive at all and If dress like a locals in each area I pass I should be able to pass by easily. Who knows. Thanks for your advice.
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Is clearing customs in Mumbai a hassle? I mean is it full of scams or pretty straight forward with the normal delays that occur inthis part of the world?
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I haven´t shipped to Mumbai. I have shipped (by air) out of Chennai, though,
and that backed up what others had already told me: that shipping + India
is a
bad combination – or at the very least, it is very time-consuming and
laborous
to do it!
I´ve also ridden a bit in Mumbai. Oh boy, what a humongous traffic jam that
place was!! And when you do shipping, you often need to go to some offices
around the city, which is not very easy in a city of +10 million people (and
when your bike is packed, you naturally can´t use it, so you need other transport). Accommodation also seemed very expensive compared to elsewhere in
India. I won´t say it´s un-doable, because it´s not, but I can almost guarantee it´ll give you some sort of headache.... 
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I haven´t shipped to Mumbai. I have shipped (by air) out of Chennai, though,
and that backed up what others had already told me: that shipping + India
is a
bad combination – or at the very least, it is very time-consuming and
laborous
to do it!
I´ve also ridden a bit in Mumbai. Oh boy, what a humongous traffic jam that
place was!! And when you do shipping, you often need to go to some offices
around the city, which is not very easy in a city of +10 million people (and
when your bike is packed, you naturally can´t use it, so you need other transport). Accommodation also seemed very expensive compared to elsewhere in
India. I won´t say it´s un-doable, because it´s not, but I can almost guarantee it´ll give you some sort of headache.... |
Thanks for this info, It will me much harder for me as I am looking to use a car instead of bike. I was hoping to find someone who has done it already to see how it worked out for them, My main concern is shipping the car over and then custom being corrupt and make me pay large amounts of money for the release of my vehicle!
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I was hoping to find someone who has done it already to see how it worked out for them
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Hi dear blessing 786
As i had many guests which is traveling by car and passed pakistan i can give you the email addresses and contacs of them ,i hope it will be useful for you
just give me private message for addresses
all the best
Overlanders,Meeting Mr.Hossein
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Hi dear blessing 786
As i had many guests which is traveling by car and passed pakistan i can give you the email addresses and contacs of them ,i hope it will be useful for you
just give me private message for addresses
all the best
Overlanders,Meeting Mr.Hossein
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Hi there
you can contact me directly:
Email address : hosseinthebiker@yahoo.com
All the best
Hossein 
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