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Depending on your tolerance for hassle, I would leave on foot city exploration (Fez, Marrakech, etc) for another fly-in trip and stick to enjoying the great riding down south.
Or do them on the way back when you're more acclimatised.

I'm not sure if it's the same further south but certainly in Tangiers this summer the street hassle level was close to zero - something that really surprised me as I've been there many times and its always been something you have to cope with. I was talking to one of the locals about it and he told me that when tourist levels dropped to zero with Covid they all had to find something else to do. Tourist levels were still down this summer so their alternative employment was still the better bet. He expects they'll be back but it may take a while to ramp up.
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A tour company will make a 9 day route which includes a GPS with the route, hotels, breakfasts, and a booklet giving ideas what to do.
Riding my own bike.
3,000 Euro.
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Morocco is a well mapped,tourist friendly,modern country.There is absolutely no need to join an on road,guided tour.If you are a little nervous use Reise Map and Booking.com to plan your trip and never forget that a Plan is only a base line that can be changed
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That’s crazy money for any tour. And even more so for a road based one without a guide present. Well over double what I would charge for a guided off road tour.

Even if you allowed €1000 for top class hotels (and they would be on that budget) the company are pocketing the rest for a few hours work. Shameful really.

This autumn was crazy with the amount of guided bike groups. I have never seen it so busy with motorbikes and overlanders. Campervans numbers were hugely down though.

I could sell you a self guided itinerary with gps routes etc but it’s just not worth it for you. For a road based trip, sit down with a copy of the rough guide and work out where you are interested in visiting and ask questions here. I’ll be happy to point you towards interesting roads between stops and im sure others would chip in with suggestions.
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Thanks for your input. We will do it ourselves with input from the group.
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I typically use my bmw garmin gps to navigate and build the route using base camp.
However it appears no no mini sd cards are available for North Africa. Do you guys just use your cellphone for navigation?
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A mini SD card for a fitted BMW GPS?
Not sure how they work but you can buy a Garmin map for North Africa for just £20 and it's pretty good.

https://sahara-overland.com/2016/12/...-map-reviewed/
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I thought Garmin had a North Africa map set available? I install open street maps for North Africa onto my Garmin Montana. Mostly I've been using the North Africa Topo maps downloaded from gmaptool.eu over the last few months

Google Directions work in Morocco now after being blocked for years. Alternatively mapy.cz is pretty good on the phone. Giaia GPS is very good but difficult to get the hang of or maps.me works ok.
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certainly in Tangiers this summer the street hassle level was close to zero
It's been like that since at least 2018. Not sure what happened to change things.

I remember 12-15 years ago when Fanum (from UKGSer) had bikers riding shotgun on his massive bike trailer through Tanger to prevent chancers leaping on board.
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Ramadan is a PITA as it substantially interferes with my favourite way of passing the time by sitting in a pavement cafe sipping a nus-nus coffee and people watching. You will only be able to do that in tourist areas of major cities. If you have the choice to move dates to avoid most of Ramadan, I would do.

The problems with GPS might not be worth solving. I managed fine from 1972 to 2005 with just paper maps and you will have a much better understanding of the country if you do this. The road network is not complicated and you only need GPS if you are travelling off-tarmac. Be aware that Google has still not updated the road numbers since the massive renumbering changes in 2018.

March can still be cold in the north, so I would head south as fast as possible. You could use the autoroutes to make real fast progress.
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