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Pretty much like the proposed Portsmouth to Portugal ferry
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Getting a ferry company onboard will probably be the big problem... I doubt that there will be a lineup of companies seeking to operate this route.
The problem - as potential ferry operators will see it - is this: The route does not make any sense. It's way longer than Gibraltar or Algeceras to Morocco, offers zero logistical benefits to passengers or truckers, and there is probably no port infrastructure in Portugal that is already present to handle passenger and ro-ro ferries.
Setting this route up would require considerable capital investment on the part of the ferry operator to set up a port in Portugal (neither the Moroccans or the Portuguese have any reason to subsidize such a venture), and the route could be made redundant and useless overnight in the event of an improvement in relations between Morocco & Spain. After all, there is no practical reason to not continue operating the long-standing Algeceras to Morocco route - it's only constrained at the moment because of a diplomatic hissy fit. That could disappear overnight (let's hope it does).
My guess is that a Portugal to Morocco ferry route will never see the light of day.
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The Moroccan government is subsidising all ferry and air tickets for Moroccans this summer as part of operation Marhaba.
There's a whole load of ferries and ferry companies not operating the Spain - Morocco route as they normally do due to the restricted traffic between the 2. Most of these ferries are too small to do the longer routes. I would think any number of those ferries could be utilised even the Spanish owned ones (Balearia are running ferries from France to Morocco so it would appear Spanish companies aren't prohibited)
Yes the 2 countries could grow up and reopen the Spanish routes, but its not far off 18months since a ferry ran carrying passengers between them.
There's never been a ferry from Gibraltar to Morocco but that would seem the easiest way to capitalise on the gaps in service. Cruiser ships regularly visit Gib so the infrastructure must be there, although maybe not for vehicle loading.
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Ceuta Land Border
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can anyone tell me if the CEUTA land border is open to tourists?
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NO, it closed in March 2020, Spain will review the situation at the end of July but its unlikely to change. Morocco will also need to decide to reopen the border
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The Morocan Ambassador to Spain has just returned to Madrid after a recall that has lasted several months so, the political spat is at last calming
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H24Info has posted a report from El Confidencial Digital stating that Morocco will imminently reopen passenger sea links between Spain and will also open borders with Ceuta and Melilla.
This sounds to me nothing more than journalistic clickbait but here's the links if you fancy reading them. At least H24info had the decency to put a question mark in its headline.
H24info: https://www.h24info.ma/maroc/maroc-e...ons-maritimes/
El Confidencial Digital: https://www.elconfidencialdigital.co...101292939.html
I can guess but I can't pretend to know the Moroccan grand plan, however there were reasons for closing off the sea and land routes with Spain which happened before the Polisario leader Brahim Ghali was allowed into Spain. I can't see that Morocco has achieved anything yet, so I imagine the situation will remain.
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Morocco World News is reporting that Italian shipping line GNV (Grandi Navi Veloci) is expanding its operations in Morocco and expanding its shipping routes to Morocco, however unless I am missing something in the text, there seems to be little confirmed change as far as services to Morocco are concerned.
Article: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/202...tes-to-morocco
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Madar21 has a report that Spain-Morocco ferry links and also the land borders are to reopen within three months. The report references El Confidencial Digital article above but claims it has its own diplomatic sources.
'Within three months' is a pretty loose timeframe, so don't hold your breath, https://madar21.com/30641.html
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Another report, this time suggesting the ferry service between Spain and Morocco will resume early November: https://www.lesiteinfo.com/maroc/rep...c-et-lespagne/
It quotes Ceuta Actualidad, but the source for the Ceuta article is in fact the Digital Confidencial referred to in post #198. Ceuta Actualidad references El Confidencial Digital saying that the border will reopen 1 November but warning there have been hoaxes before. https://www.ceutaactualidad.com/arti...817132104.html
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We're approaching the end of the current SoE and also Spain last announcement about the border so we're seeing the same repeated rumours that the press have circulated all year.
All meaningless until there's an official announcment from both Spain and Morocco
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It seems to be definitely operating. I've got a quote from them for Genova-Tanger yesterday.
Now wondering how the covid testing could be managed. The ferry trip alone takes over 50 hours, and the test must not be older than 48h.
Any idea?
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Morocco World News is reporting that Italian shipping line GNV (Grandi Navi Veloci) is expanding its operations in Morocco and expanding its shipping routes to Morocco, however unless I am missing something in the text, there seems to be little confirmed change as far as services to Morocco are concerned.
Article: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/202...tes-to-morocco
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The answer is somewhere in this thread; did I read it's done on board?
I'd like to know for sure myself; I've booked one to Sete in a couple of weeks.
As I'm going out via France my travels docs are expanding into a dossier fit to ride down the west coast of Africa.
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PCR must be under 48hrs before boarding. UK FCO says another is done on board but nobody has reported that this actually happens.
As of the weekend you will also receive an antigen test on arrival, if you test positive then you will be refused entry into Morocco
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