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air freight a bike to Egypt?

Is this crazy? It seems there is NO WAY to start a trip to east africa now besides a dodgy boat service from Turkey to Eqypt. My plans of tunisia-Libya-Egypt and south seems to be withering with the Libya issue. I called the Italian consulate in Milan and the conversation was something like:" "er hello? YZES, er, is the this the Lybian consulate? Ah, maybe, who wants to know? Do you have tourists visas available to US nationals? Ah, no. Maybe later....click.."

I live/work in italy but will be moving back to the states this fall unless i can solve this problem and do this trip of dreams at the end of my work.

So why not fly a GS bike from Rome to Cairo on Egypt Air or AirItalia? less than 4 hours direct. how comes no one does that? I can at least prep the bike from my home and not in some far away land (like i plan to do from CapeTown if I ever get there..)
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Hello,

i would take a flight to Addis Abeba.Why you should pay 500Euro for the ridiculous bureaucracy in Egypt? I spent ten hours in the airport to get the stamp in my carnet.

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It sounds like a good idea as long as you appreciate that Egyptian immigration with a vehicle - land border, port and I'd imagine airport cargo - is among the most protracted in the world. It may take days as but you say, your choices are few.
Perhaps someone here from Eg can help you with the arrangements or advice.
And I wonder if air freighting to Israel may be less hassle - never heard of anyone doing that either though.

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@Mike: If that is true and it took you only ten hours to get the carnet stamped at the airport (!) that would be great! Then I wouldn't want to miss Egypt and Sudan. Ethiopia doesn't seem to be too easy anymore either.

@Chris: In the past, people had shipped mainly cars with Grimaldi from Israel to Italy. Since the upheavals in the Arab World more and more travellers have gone the other way and have made basically the same experiences as in Egypt: Car had to be emptied completely, horrendous costs for all kinds of completely pointless procedures which are no more than a hassle. I am not sure whether this is a good alternative, given that you still have to cross into Egypt afterwards ...

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Fly to Egypt

We flew 4 bikes from Brisbane to Cairo in 2011, during Ramadan !!!! Was an experience, but total cost per bike was around $300 (I think) that included the License, the storage fees this bit of paper that bit of paper and all bribes which I suspect was about 1/2 of the total cost. Yes I would do it again & took about 5 days to get out, if not in Ramadan I think 3 days & you would be on your bike. We got in touch with a friend of a friend etc and he was invaluable ! Did all the shouting & waving of arms etc for us.
If you want some tips to watch out for just let me know if you go ahead with it.

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Ciao fellow travelers
ok this sounds partially encouraging.
I might have a contact in Cairo
This dream is on the fence and I'm looking for a plan for November ,but maybe I am planning too far out? I am an engineer after all...
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We flew 4 bikes from Brisbane to Cairo in 2011, during Ramadan !!!! Was an experience, but total cost per bike was around $300 (I think) that included the License, the storage fees this bit of paper that bit of paper and all bribes which I suspect was about 1/2 of the total cost. Yes I would do it again & took about 5 days to get out, if not in Ramadan I think 3 days & you would be on your bike. We got in touch with a friend of a friend etc and he was invaluable ! Did all the shouting & waving of arms etc for us.
If you want some tips to watch out for just let me know if you go ahead with it.

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300 bucks to fly a bike from austrailia to egypt; that sounds cheap. I saw 400$ for ro-ro from turkey.

3 days seems accpetable, especially as there are very very few options to get to the start of the route!
this is where a 'fixer' would be handy. Can i hire your friend of a friend?
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