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Dont know if you know but Ouallen and several other abandoned French-era desert forts like Serenout, Chebaba, (as well as key wells like Tim Missao) have been re-occupied by the Algerian army in recent years.

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Our guide noticed something at the fort and therefor we decided not to go to the fort itself. So fort oualen is probably 'in use' again as well.
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Hi Steven.

It´s possible that the fort is in use again. This picture has 4-6 years, maybe. I found a french man that worked there in 1957-58, as radio-telegraphist. Anyway, we could check by ourselves. Do you have binoculars?

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Hi Steve

Our guide didn’t have the slighter idea here the fort was!
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Hi Steven.

It´s possible that the fort is in use again. This picture has 4-6 years, maybe. I found a french man that worked there in 1957-58, as radio-telegraphist. Anyway, we could check by ourselves. Do you have binoculars?

See you,

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I brought binoculars but the fort was much higher up then our track. the small part where you could see the fort itself went past me without noticing Bernardo had to tell me we passed it.
Working on a 1000km otonomy bike right now so who know's next year

Ah Bernardo, at least our guide could make a nice tea and camp fire
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Hi Steven

Nice to know that! I'm feeling better day by day. My GS has an autonomy of 1000-1100 km, fully loaded. Difficult to ride, but ok.

Next March?

Rui
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Last March I used 60 lt. (33 lt main GS Adventure tank + 2 lt small black Touratech plastic on left case + 5 lt jerrycan on right case + 2 x 10 lts jerrycans on passenger seat.) I´ve done 925 km without refill. For longer distances I can use 2 x 20 lt jerrycans.) I have a large cargo plate instead of passengers seat. Very good for heavy loads,as a passenger. Just possible to ride on piste with TKC 80.Road tires makes this "panzer tank" very unsafe!
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Rui

How many litters of petrol are you planning to take?

And what is your average consumption in the pists?

I always use the following rule:

(Max number of kms * 30%) * average consumption for the terrain + 20L


(for the LW)
900*30% = 1170 Kms * 15L/100kms = 175L + 20L = 195 Litters

For this pist we travelled with 180L of diesel and 30L of petrol to the bike
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Dont know if you know but Ouallen and several other abandoned French-era desert forts like Serenout, Chebaba, (as well as key wells like Tim Missao) have been re-occupied by the Algerian army in recent years.

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Chris - are such forts marked on Michelin maps or any other for that matter?
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Hi all

The pizza boy arrived yesterday at Timimoun under 57ºC.
He is ok and will rest a few days in the oasis.

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... are such forts marked on Michelin maps or any other for that matter?

The old French-era ones ('bordj'), yes, but not all may be re-occupied.

Newer military installations, not all are shown, but they are very few.

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Excuse me, pizza boy is that Portugese that rides an little scooter?
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Hi Pera! Hola Amigo!

Yes, the pizza boy is a 44 years old Portuguese university teacher that (usually) rides his very little scooter in Morocco. This time he is in Algeria for 22 days, but with an Africa Twin 750 cc with a huge 56 lt. fuel tank. That's the man!

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Obrigado Rui,

I thought he went with the scooter
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