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Current situation Westsahara, Mauritania, Mali (Dec 2013)
Just drove from Europe to Mali and obviously found a different, much tougher situation, compared to my last trip 7 years ago.
Trip report here: Driving through Westsahara. Mauritania, Mali (Dec 2013) - Gentleman Adventurer
In a nutshell:
Mauritania visa on arrival (50 Euro) now available again at border (since Nov 2013)
Morocco-Mauritania border opens at 08h00 (in reality 09h00) and closes at 18h00, on weekends possibly earlier (14h30 ?)
Car insurance for Mauretania (25 Euro) and - separately - most of West Africa (Brown Card, 75 Euro) available at Mauri border
Mali visa usually available at border, but advise to obtain it beforehand (at Rabat embassy within ca. 1 hour, 60 Euro), because of potential refusal at Mauri-Mali border in the current war turmoil
Mauri-Mali border opens at 08h00 and closes at 18h00 (or 20h00 ?)
Compulsory military escort (soldier in car with AK 47 and 2 magazines; cost 10 Euro) from Mauri-Mali border to Nioro du Sahel and another soldier (50 Euro) from there to Bamako, because of current reflaming of Tuareg rebellion and several AQMI & Ansar Dine incursions and kidnappings in that area
Corrupt chief of brigade at "Douanes" customs office in Nioro du Sahel(Mali) tries to enforce an additional rip-off customs escort on transit travellers (so called T1 carnet), all the way through the country. Avoid this at all cost and insist you enter as a tourist !!! Otherwise you have a customs guard in your car (at 75 - 100 Euro cost, starting in Kati/Bamako) who keeps your passport and car papers and decides your Bamako hotel and the immediate onward drive out of the country.
For Westsahara, Mauritania and Mali you need to prepare a total of 50 (!) "Fiche d'Etat Civile" photocopies to hand out at the many control posts.
Last edited by Travelbug; 15 Dec 2013 at 04:58.
Reason: Added insurance info, visa cost
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4 Dec 2013
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Thanks for the new info....50 euros does not sound TOO bad, its still a difficult area with lots of kidnapping and the guys with the beards would normaly target a non escorted vehical rather than one with a guy with a AK
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5 Dec 2013
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Thanks for the update!
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Thank you for the informations
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In Mali you would have to get yerself north or east of Tomboctou to get kidnapped these days.
That is a scam they are pulling, just say no.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by priffe
In Mali you would have to get yerself north or east of Tomboctou to get kidnapped these days.
That is a scam they are pulling, just say no.
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The difficulty was that the customs chief told us that our military escort ends in Bamako and there we would get our car papers back. Only in Bamako we were told that the escort continues. Try to get your papers back from someone with an AK47
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Mauri Oct 2013
Just to say we have done a very good trip in Mauri desert this Autumn: 15 days , 3 cars and a very nice guide "petit" Fadel.
Our route: Nouadhibou,banc d'Arguin,Benichab,Akjout,
Erg Amatlich,Amazmaz,Tifoujar,Oued El Abiod(about Akjout--> Oujeft we have followed the route described in Cyril Ribas' book),Oujeft,Atar,Ouadane,Chinguetti,Rachid,Tidjik a ('old piste'),passe de Nega,Boumdeit,Aleg,Diama.
After Sénégal,Gambia,Guinée Bissau and return (the whole trip:10weeks).
If you need more details, just let me know.
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Originally Posted by roro
Just to say we have done a very good trip in Mauri desert this Autumn: 15 days , 3 cars and a very nice guide "petit" Fadel.
Our route: Nouadhibou,banc d'Arguin,Benichab,Akjout,
Erg Amatlich,Amazmaz,Tifoujar,Oued El Abiod(about Akjout--> Oujeft we have followed the route described in Cyril Ribas' book),Oujeft,Atar,Ouadane,Chinguetti,Rachid,Tidjik a ('old piste'),passe de Nega,Boumdeit,Aleg,Diama.
After Sénégal,Gambia,Guinée Bissau and return (the whole trip:10weeks).
If you need more details, just let me know.
RR.
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Hi,
Heading there in a couple of weeks, and would appreciate some more info.
Cheers,
Gee
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14 Dec 2013
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Hi,
Heading there in a couple of weeks, and would appreciate some more info.
Cheers,
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No poblem Thimba, just ask me what infos do you need and I'll try to help you.
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No poblem Thimba, just ask me what infos do you need and I'll try to help you.
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Thanks,
I understand you used a guide. Could you pm me how I can contact him (mail, or perhaps Facebook?).
Cheers,
Gee
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Thanks,
I understand you used a guide. Could you pm me how I can contact him (mail, or perhaps Facebook?).
Cheers,
Gee
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FADEL HABIB : 00222 22 44 38 04 - 00222 46 44 38 04
MAIL :info@smcp.mr (not sure about it)
He lives in Nouadhibou.
A very nice guy, indeed
RR.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roro
Just to say we have done a very good trip in Mauri desert this Autumn: 15 days , 3 cars and a very nice guide "petit" Fadel.
Our route: Nouadhibou,banc d'Arguin,Benichab,Akjout,
Erg Amatlich,Amazmaz,Tifoujar,Oued El Abiod(about Akjout--> Oujeft we have followed the route described in Cyril Ribas' book),Oujeft,Atar,Ouadane,Chinguetti,Rachid,Tidjik a ('old piste'),passe de Nega,Boumdeit,Aleg,Diama.
After Sénégal,Gambia,Guinée Bissau and return (the whole trip:10weeks).
If you need more details, just let me know.
RR.
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Hello RoRo,
i´m just planning our Mauri-Trip in January.
Could you give me some Information about your route?
Do you know wether PNBA is allowed for camper with 7.5 tons?
Akjout - Oujeft is very interesting -what´s about safety there??
Regards
Juergen
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Originally Posted by BigOne
Hello RoRo,
i´m just planning our Mauri-Trip in January.
Could you give me some Information about your route?
Do you know wether PNBA is allowed for camper with 7.5 tons?
Akjout - Oujeft is very interesting -what´s about safety there??
Regards
Juergen
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For this kind of vehicle, I don't know; but I think there is no problem about authorisation because you are not crontoled when you enter PNBA: you just have to pay the fees for entrance into the park in Nouamgar.
About security between Akjout and Oujeft, I think it's secure at this time.
RR.
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PNBA and trucks
When I was there in 2006 with my 9 tonne Merc 4x4 I was told very politely that vehicles over 3.5 tonnes weren't officially allowed however the park official allowed me to stay because as he put it I'd driven all the way there! However I didn't go in through the 'official' entrance and simply turned off the road just north of the gas station and went across the sand to get there. I managed to get stuck on my way back a week later but that's another story........!
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Hi everybody,
I've wrote a little report about my recent trip in Mauri but ...... it's in French (because I'm French and too lazy to translate it).
However, if you want it, just let me know, and I'll post it as private message.
Happy new year's eve and happy travels for 2014.
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