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Cleft Hill LRDG airstrip Egypt Western Desert
could this picture help ?



or the sat map ?



the tracks are really mysterious !



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Egypt - airfields from WWII
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the tracks are really mysterious !
Has anyone ever crossposted this thread to an aviation forum or the like? I mean no disrespect, but I think guesswork in this forum won't lead anywhere.
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I know there are many WWII aviation historians lurking on this forum, they are as baffled as anyone else. The tracks are unlike anything one would expect to have been made by aircraft of the day, see discussion above.
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I have seen high flotation,wide wheelbase,geophysical survey vehicles operating in Abu dhabi and Oman.Could it be this or,similar.They usually travel in a series of parallel straight lines so these should also be able to be seen.The circles may be corraling at the end of the day!
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The source of the mystery is that the tracks are quite clearly single, unlike anything one would expect from multi-wheeled craft.
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Interesting thread guys.
Any updates?
Or will it all be lost to history?
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There are two images among the Arkwright photographs that might give a clue. They show a Thornycroft lorry dragging something on a long rope in the sand. There is no caption to provide any explanation for the purpose of the exercise, but that would leave a track very similar to the ones being contemplated:





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Mystery solved !
Watching the original footage of the Bagnold expeditions on youtube it became clear that these marks were left by the old tail-dragger Vickers Victorias of RAF 216 sqn. Unlike later aircraft with a tail wheel, they only had a tail skid which made a deep trough in the soft terrain, but the wheels with the rubber tires did not sink in. This explains the single tracks. The still from the video illustrates it nicely:


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Could the single tracks be the nose or tail wheel of an aircraft? In a tight turn that single wheel might dig in more than the others.
Close but no cigar....
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Close but no cigar....
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Now that we know what made them, it is actually possible to see the tracks made by the main wheels on either side of the deeper tail skid mark on this photo of Ursula:

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I keep having to remind myself how long those single tracks have been there. Seven decades or so and counting - with plenty of wind energy to move sediment around multiple times a month. Think of all the tracks we've driven out in the Sahara and Libyan desert over the years.
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These are the tracks of Prince Kemal el Din's Citroens from 1926 at Uweinat (taken in 2015):


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