Wondering if anyone has been in this situation.

We'll have a carte gris that will have been crossed out with 'vendu le (date)' on it. The vehicle has the old French govt. plates currently & it could be difficult timing & cost issues to get it re-registered in France before we leave. However it will have had it's controle technique (whether it passes or not!)

I read on a blog from ?2012 that someone had gone down to Benin via Mali with a similar carte gris. I'm wondering if we'll be able to get into Morocco for starters then obviously Mauri & Mali with this type of carte gris.

We're also looking at the other possibility, registering the vehicle in Cote d'Ivoire prior to it being in-country, in which case we'll have CD plates & life will be a lot easier. But this is a long shot.

Anyone able to offer recent experience of doing the same?

Thanks

No experience except to note that Moroccans can prove remarkably alert to falsified or inadequate vehicle documentation. They're thoroughly accustomed to all the evasions practiced by Europeans, too. Plus: they like to sprinkle roadblocks and document checks along the main route south.

But best you get a better-informed opinion than mine. I'm really just here to say hello and offer my best wishes for your continued efforts in Cote d'Ivoire.

Mark

Thanks Mark, hope to see you with us in CI one of these days !!! We will look after you

CREER

I think I can help here, but probably more of a hindrance. I`ve been dealing with registration issues on vehicles in france for a few years.

From what you say I take it this is an ex military vehicle, which is still Govt registered. If you are given a CG which is crossed with the sale date and time, the vendor will/should (by law) send off their copy of the Certificat de Cession ( Bill of Sale) to the prefecture noting that this is now a civilian vehicle for first registration. They will take the military plates off , so It won`t have any reg no at all. The vehicle is flagged as Unregistered on the central system until the new owner registers it with their copy of the Cert de Cession and the crossed CG. This must be done within 1 month of the sale transaction, or exported.

As it will have never been registered there won`t be any detail for insurance companies,/ as there will be nothing on the data base . You can not insure a vehicle without your name ( or company name with supporting documentation) on the Carte Grise. If there is no CG and no registration then the vehicle technically doesn`t exist.The only way you can move it on the road is on a trailer or trade plates.

You will have to register it as a civilian vehicle whichever way you look at it. If you are not a French resident you won`t be able to register it in France anyway, and you will have to export it and register it in your country of residence. Exporting ex military vehicles may require a licence, as it does in the U.K.

If you are buying from an agent ( like Lys-tout), they should be able to help you with all the paperwork.

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Thanks for the help

I'm a French resident & work for the government. The vehicle (which also worked for the govt. but not military) is on an old departmental N plate.

We're waiting for the full documentation & according to my CT garage, I will be able to drive it to the garage providing that it's insured & has an appointment with my CT garage who I've known for 15+ years.

So, we are waiting to see at work if we'll get the CG with 'vendu le ...' or 'cession' - one of my superiors is doing his best to make it an easy route for us. However, if we can get it out of France on that CG it would make it easier for us to get it to Cote d'Ivoire, apart from border controls

I've always imported my own vehicles into France from Germany or Spain so know the 'usual' ropes but as this won't be on the road for long in France, we need to find the easiest & cheapest option to get it south. We're very close to the Spanish border which makes life a little easier to get it out of France.

Thanks again

I don't think an unregistered plate can ever drive the European roads whatever someone tells you. Be aware of insurance risks also. The proper way would be to get French export plates and get it insured. As being said, don't underestimate the Moroccan capabilities for checking documents. Anything happen on your way without correct papers will bring serious trouble and you could even end up in jail.

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