Don Priffe, continuing the strangeness, actually Einstein labeled it "strangeness at a distance" when referring to space as a viewpoint of dimension, and the unaccountable (by the accepted laws/mechanics of the physical universe) effects created upon similar molecules "at a distance."

Unexplainably, I knew the "asado" reference would be understood.

As is said upon meeting someone new in Puerto Limón, Costa Rica "May we no longer be strangers."

Interesting that you mentioned the decanted "tinto" Perhaps Google will decant the fate of the 3 Spaniards differently, but my chips are still on the table.

I worked my way through many years of graduate study as a "contracted" sommelier.

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Brief posting to Xfiltrate -
as you know, The Hubb is a broad community with all manner of views and perspectives. In my experience, opinions are usually well received and alternative explanations normally get reasonable consideration. But it turns out that some of the postings deal with fairly serious issues - kidnapping being one of them. Some Hubb users have asked if you could keep to the point being discussed. I agree with them. You probably know much better than me that there are many, many places on the internet for discussing things like life as a remote viewer but that this isn't one of them. Many thanks -
Richard

Richard Washington: Yes, there are thousands of more appropriate sites for my very brief comment regarding remote viewing , but few as serious. Yes I will refrain from similar comments.

But, on the other hand, the first authentic/verified international release regarding the kidnappers came from (ennahar 08 December, 2009 02:33:00) Menaka (Mali) 3 hours ahead of Buenos Aires time and headlined "Three Spaniards detained by AQIM "hardliners""

You do the math, regarding my post 23 hours before this post agreeing with Priffe that "Your own Aqim desert branch description alleged "close connection to drug smuggling" and as you read further on was the identity of the third party referenced in my previous post.

The location of the hostages is yet to be released. Security Forces in Northern Mali announced the abductors as AQIM, but said nothing about the location of the hostages, I have speculated the 3 Spaniards are not being held in Mali.

Posted by Priffe on another thread:

Ennahar Online - Three Spaniards detained by AQIM "hardliners"

Now, that was some very serious speculating!

Future releases might or might not validate my other contributions to this thread. But, I will immediately exile myself to the HU bar, with any additional comments regarding remote viewing.

My intention here was/is not frivolous, I apologize for comments posted that may have contributed to your misunderstanding of my serious speculation regarding Saharan kidnapping tactics in play at the moment.

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Folks,

Another point to be wary of is the 'mafia' environment which exisits among AQIM and their affiliates and suporters: in other words there are a number of terrorists looking to establish credibility and proof of intent and capability by carrying out attacks and kidnappings. The emphasis in the press is often on ideology and that implies a limited set of motivating factors. When you take into account the desire to go one better than your rival that puts another, slightly less pure (by that I do NOT mean I agree with the principles) tinge on the reasons behind what goes on.

There was a very interesting article in 'Jeune Afrique' recently on the power struggle in North African terrorism and the blurred lines between that and banditry. I gave my copy away unfortunately but anyone who reads French would do well do try and get a back copy.

Cheers,

Rich

Well they are thugs, plain and simple. Criminals.
One major error done in the "war on terror" is to label AQ or any of their followers as soldiers, army, etc. They're not. They don't wear uniforms or even an ID. They don't belong to any army or come from any one nation. This is not a "war". Major mistake by W.
They are thugs belonging to a criminal organization and it is a police matter.
To label them as "soldiers" is dignifying them.
Their targets are civilians, mosques. markets, hospitals, UN, the Red Cross, NGOs, tourists, skyscrapers, embassies, schools, women and children more often than soldiers of the 'enemy'.
They flourish where there is no rule of law.
They should be caught and tried in civil courts.
The Geneva Convention is not valid and can not be applied (even notwithstanding the fact that they themselves have no respect for it).
The only leader to adress the problem so far (AFAIK) is W (naming them "illegal combattants"). EU and the UN has not, other than critizising the US..
There's a great need for new definitions. An update of the Geneva Convention as it doesn't work in todays conflicts (civil wars, militias, international crime organizations, private armies such as Blackwater).
my 2 cents

Xfiltrate, sorry, but I really haven't noticed that you've contributed any non-obvious information to this thread which has since been proven correct based on your supposed capabilities.

So far I think you've said that the hostages were being held underground, had been kidnapped for their knowledge of tunnel construction, and had been taken away by boat.

Anything else we should note for validation by the facts when they emerge? I am profoundly skeptical about your and similar claims but am always ready to consider credible and convincing evidence to the contrary if it is available.

motoreiter,

I have not noticed any factual account of how the 3 Spanish hostages were transported anywhere. I speculate that the published desert crossing into Mali, utilizing the "human shield" defense might well have been a cover operation, complete with 3 cut outs as hostages.

Here is what I actually said:

"If it was false flag, and knowing that the search would probably be mostly land oriented, the hostages might have been or might eventually be taken toward the sea, and put aboard a boat, by those perhaps not familiar with the desert. Just an idea."

I also clarified the "boat" speculation:

"Logistically, I still hold with the idea of some earthen, underground, cave, mine etc is being/was utilized. I agree with those who forward the idea of the "human shield" tactic as a strong possibility, but also hold that the plan was not to transport, via land, to Mali, but by much swifter transport to another location in Mauritania and then out of the West African region."

Is it fact that the 3 Spanish hostages are in Mali and were transported there via a desert crossing? No, these facts have not yet been established.


Nor have any facts been established concerning the tactics employed by the kidnapers to evade the rescue efforts, air cover, etc... so has my "underground speculation" been proven or not?

One established fact is that none of the 3 Spanish hostages fit the typical profile of "cooperantes" or Spanish "volunteers who help deliver relief via convoy, etc. Another fact is the senior hostage is the CEO of one of Spain's largest tunnel construction firm. My first "tunnel reference" was posted before the names and descriptions of the hostages were released.

When responding to Priffe, I agreed with the part of his post assigning culpability: By stating "You Priffe, have already concluded the identity of my referenced *third party." *the kidnappers

"Your own Aqim desert branch description alleged "close connection to drug smuggling."

This was posted, before general releases and official releases declared AQIM as claiming responsibility.

I also posted: "But the "meat" on the bones of my analysis will come through the filter of official press releases that are like an "asado al punto" tender but without blood."

And I reiterate: "Future releases might or might not validate my other contributions to this thread. But, I will immediately exile myself to the HU bar, with any additional comments regarding ........."

I most hardily agree with you when you posted: "I am profoundly skeptical about your and similar claims but am always ready to consider credible and convincing evidence to the contrary if it is available."

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Or, how safe is Morocco? And why?

...And why?

Good question. I believe it is because the Moroccans spend a lot more money and time patrolling their relatively manageable borders (as many of us find when we get too near it) as well as the secret police tracking down and crushing any dissent/insurgents (probably at the cost of a few innocent people along the way).

They like Egypt (but not like Alg, RIM, etc) have a lot to lose if tourists are frightened away.

As for alternative speculative techniques, there's a chilling new film all about it here.

Ch

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