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Long range fuel tanks
Anybody out there got any experience with adding extra fuel tanks to a Range Rover or Disco? I'm considering either putting tanks in the rear wings or possibly in the space between the sills and the chassis rails.

Any advice or pros and cons on each mounting position?

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Ben,

In a disco you can't add more than 50 - 55 L even if you use the space behind both rear wings, even less using the space between the chassis and the sills. Unless you make the tanks yourself, the job is pretty costly (in the UK). To make a real difference, an extra tank should hold well over 100 L, otherwise it's cheaper and easier to carry to use five jerry cans.

For reasons of practicality / convenience / economy / cost - an internal tank is the best solution. Have you considered a flat tank under a false floor?

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Roman,

Thanks for the reply. I notice from your web page that you had an internal plastic tank made - do you have any pictures of it? Where did you mount it? Under a false floor in the boot?

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Ben,

My tank was a stop-gap solution - sadly, no pictures, only sketches (go back to my website and you'll find a new link I've just created in the fuel tank section). It was fixed behind the front seats. Nothing fancy, just one big hole to fill the tank and to insert a small electric immersion pump (camping type Whale water pump - also works in diesel fuel!). Another hole for venting - that's it.

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If you're in a hurry and have some money these guys have just about everything (at a price) the page for reservoirs is
http://www.equip-raid.fr/cat/P11/180.html
I Think Roman's solution which, according to his site, will "increase the rage between refuelling" is easier, and transferable from one vehicle to the next, too.
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I was travelling up the western route of the Sahara this summer on my bike and met up with a pair of Land Rovers in St. Louis, Senegal. One was a Defender 130 and the guy had built his own stainless steel fuel tank to sit in the flat bed behind the cab. The other was a Defender 90 and had about 7 seven jerry cans standing up across the roof rack. To fill the main tank from the jerry cans we just used a length of plastic pipe and siphoned the fuel from them, while leaving them in place on the roof. Very simple and cheap solution, I thought.
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Have a word with Andy from allisport

www.allisport.com

He can make up aluminium tanks to your required design.

Slightly biased post as he's a mate of mine



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Originally posted by KenKeller:
... The other was a Defender 90 and had about 7 seven jerry cans standing up across the roof rack. To fill the main tank from the jerry cans we just used a length of plastic pipe and siphoned the fuel from them, while leaving them in place on the roof. Very simple and cheap solution, I thought.
But not advisable to have all that weight so high up. It's a bad place for an extra 200kg or so! Keep the fuel as low down as possible, jerry cans or not. And preferably between the axles, not too far back.

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Hello,
a reasonable priced alternative to custom made fuel tanks:
Tempo HDPE tanks for marine (some typs also sold by Woick in Germany, UK supplierer:
http://www.tek-tanks.com/Pages/frameset.htm

More info, also inox:
http://www.osculati.com/images/catal...2002/52eng.pdf

Manufacturer link: http://www.tempoproducts.com/belowtank.html

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Have just reached Senegal in two petrol Range Rovers fitted with Fuel tqnks behind front seat. Basic design, but holds upto 130 l of fuel. Have no pictures, but will be returning to uk in Late december and they will be for sale.
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Ive been using a 60 series Landcruiser in mali for the best part of two years. I use a stock 200l diesel tank from a MAN truck and have it stashed just above and slightly in front of the rear axle. Its made of an extremly stable plastic-rubber compound. I usually siphon it off into a jerry can for the sole reason in that I am interested in whaqt it consumes but have also one of those 12v camper jobs thast cost about 15 euro. I would recommend trying to find a new plastic one in a breakers (not easy) or just going to Mercedes MAN Scania or whoever and buying them new. They come in all shapes and sizes.
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Mat,

I'd be interested in having a look at that tank!

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I am surprised at the amount of extra fuel people are carrying!

I just returned from a trip to RIM, I took 2 jerry cans and had plenty of fuel for Nouadhibou-Nouakchott and Choum-Nouadhibou off/on piste to the south of the railway.

Next time I would like to carry more fuel and get further off piste, but I am already very overloaded with a wife, 2 kids and associated water, plus my xr650r on the back.

Maybe I have to change my 110 300TDi CSW for a Unimog :-)

PS we were driving pedal to the metal most of the time, as the kids had to be back to school, so fuel consumption was rarely above 6kpl

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ben,
you can fit a wing tank and a larger main tank to the Disco and Range Rover which would give you 166 litres.they are available in the uk.
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Ian,

The reason for carrying extra fuel is that a 3.5V8 petrol Rangie gets through it's fuel load pretty quickly! Hence the need to carry enough for a decent range.

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