2Likes
-
2
Post By borneoman
|
30 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 60
|
|
Mauritania - Mali Border Incidence
My wife and I took Nouakchott - Kiffa - Aioun El Astrous road and entered Mali through Gogui. The road throughout was good except for a few km untarmac after Kiffa. The station at Aioun El Atsrous did not have any petrol, so we bought about 10 liters at double the normal price from the same guy who mend the station.
Early Saturday morning we reached the border, all easy leaving Mauritania and the custom officer shamelessly asking for 5,000 Ougiya to stamp out. Reluctantly gave him half the amount since he was very adamant to get the money from me.
Went to the Mali side and after filling out the forms, the police said the border has been closed for entry and no one is allowed to enter Mali through Gogui. No point to return to the Mauritanian side as they also do the same. By end of the day there was a long line of trucks waiting to enter Mali and a few hundreds people waiting to enter Mali..
No change of situation on the 2nd day but at around 9 pm the police had allowed non Mauritanian lorries to enter Mali. Malian are also allowed to enter Mali.
The morning of the 3rd day situation started to get ugly when people got to know that some non Malian were allowed entry after they have made special payment to the police. The police also kept most of the people passport and ID and charge them 5000 to 10000 CFA if they want their passport back. One man was 'detained' in the police room for being too 'outspoken' about the payment. Many of the people have not eaten for days as they did not expect to be stucked at the border. They asked the police chief for help but he just laugh and told them to find their own food.
On the 4th day morning, people started to block vehicles from leaving or entering Mali and situation became more tense. Police started to move around with weapons in hands. At around 12.30 pm, the police announced that everyone with valid visa can enter Mali, hereby ending the fiasco.
We were there to witness the whole thing from day 1 to the end. Our conclusion, the police/custom on both sides were arrogant, corrupt and would not give a damm about other people hardship. They will squeeze every penny from anyone who passes the border. We feel extremely sorry for the many innocent and poor Africans at the border that day.
Welcome to Africa.
Borneoman
|
30 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,465
|
|
Been years since I passed that border crossing and I think it should be avoided. Bad things usually happen on tarmac, not piste.
Perhaps a good idea to continue to Nara, cross the border further east? If the gendarmes will let you go that way.
Are you in Bamako now? They didn't ask for you to take an escort?
|
30 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 834
|
|
Not a nice experience, hope you can relax now at the sleeping camel with a good
Kiffa - Keyes is probably the easier path...
Surfy
|
30 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Oxford, U.K.
Posts: 625
|
|
I'm wondering if the Mali borders closed in the days after the Ebola case occurred. A two year old child infected with the virus was travelling on public buses. The child passed through Kayes from Guinea over the period 19-23 Oct. The child later died.
|
30 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Oxford, U.K.
Posts: 625
|
|
|
30 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Krasnoyarsk, Russia
Posts: 216
|
|
The aternative is the Adel Bagrou border point, further east.
The piste from Mauritania to Nara (via Adel Bagrou) two months ago was quite difficult once you hit the Malian side, especially navigation, the "road" is just a maze of mud tracks and there is nobody to inquire. I ended up lost in a bog, the bike died (mud got into the elctrical system I think), and the bike was eventually extracted by a mule cart. Nara is only about 50km from the Mauritania side, but if there has been rain it's not easy.
The police were a bit more concerned once you past Kiffa, but I was never prevented from continuing. In Adel Bagrou (Mauri border point) I had to spend a frustrating day with various authority figures but I never had to pay. I did have to sign a document stating I was aware that Mali was dangerous and the Mauri government takes no responsibility for me after Adel Bagrou. On the Mali side you don't have a border point till Nara, and there it's just a simple stamp from the police, no payment or customs permit. You also don't need any more fiche documents on the Mali side, the police do not ask for them.
|
30 Oct 2014
|
-
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,342
|
|
[QUOTE=Richard Washington;484609]According to this article, the mali-Mauri border closed on 25 October owing to the Ebola case:/QUOTE]
......ici....
|
30 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 65
|
|
yes, Jordan, this year the piste was hell, due to extensive rains, I did Timbedgha - Adel Bagrou - Nara end of sept ... really difficult, took me 3 days to cover the distance you normally cover in a good day ... Nara: first genadrmes, righr after them police, a few hundred meters further on douane, which issues a "laissez-passer" for 10.000 cfa, then - to be in perfect order - continue a few kilometres further to commisariat the police, weher they stamp your "laissez-passer". No possibility to buy insurance in Nara. Good luck.
|
1 Nov 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 60
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by priffe
Been years since I passed that border crossing and I think it should be avoided. Bad things usually happen on tarmac, not piste.
Perhaps a good idea to continue to Nara, cross the border further east? If the gendarmes will let you go that way.
Are you in Bamako now? They didn't ask for you to take an escort?
|
Hi Priffe,
We are already in Bamako.
Though we did not want any escort the police forced us to accept one till Nioro and we spend the night there. We didn't pay any escort fee. They told us to sleep at the police station telling us the place is not safe but we just ignore them.
|
1 Nov 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Krasnoyarsk, Russia
Posts: 216
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by burden
yes, Jordan, this year the piste was hell, due to extensive rains, I did Timbedgha - Adel Bagrou - Nara end of sept ... really difficult, took me 3 days to cover the distance you normally cover in a good day ... Nara: first genadrmes, righr after them police, a few hundred meters further on douane, which issues a "laissez-passer" for 10.000 cfa, then - to be in perfect order - continue a few kilometres further to commisariat the police, weher they stamp your "laissez-passer". No possibility to buy insurance in Nara. Good luck.
|
Hmm, I was quite lost and who knows which direction I came into Nara. I only saw the police (if memory serves) station and I only stopped there, my stamp was free and when asked if that was everything that said "yes" and I went my merry way. No laissez passer. Nor when I re-entered Mali from the Burkina side did I need a laissez passer. Perhaps because my bike was only 125cc? I was stopped a few times in Mali and it was never requested.
|
3 Nov 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 65
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jordan325ic
Hmm, I was quite lost and who knows which direction I came into Nara. I only saw the police (if memory serves) station and I only stopped there, my stamp was free and when asked if that was everything that said "yes" and I went my merry way. No laissez passer. Nor when I re-entered Mali from the Burkina side did I need a laissez passer. Perhaps because my bike was only 125cc? I was stopped a few times in Mali and it was never requested.
|
well, that's great
|
14 Nov 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 46
|
|
Any detailed info ( Gpx- file?) on the piste Kayes - Kiffa, cause I want to avoid the gendarmerie- bastards on the Mail-side.
Will pass there in a few days, so any help will be welcome!
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Next HU Events
ALL Dates subject to change.
2025 Confirmed Events:
- Virginia: April 24-27 2025
- Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
- Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
- CanWest: July 10-13 2025
- Switzerland: Date TBC
- Ecuador: Date TBC
- Romania: Date TBC
- Austria: Sept. 11-14
- California: September 18-21
- France: September 19-21 2025
- Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025
Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!
Questions about an event? Ask here
See all event details
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|