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pistes between morocco & algeria
I am planning a visit in Southern Morocco Northeastern Algerie and I wonder whether is possible to cross via piste from the piste-axis Tagounite-Taouz into Algeria? What should I expect? Cheers. Alberto
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What should I expect?

Sadly, what you can expect is land mines and a whole ot of aggro when the military of either country find you - especially since Casablanca.

See Saharan Borders:
http://www.sahara-overland.com/maps/index.htm#bordermap

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Dear Chris,

I would like to wish you the very best of luck in the New Year!!!

Thank you very much for your swift reply!!!

I am planning other trips in the Sahara and I would like to ask if you could let me know how long should it take to do the Tenere Loop route, with a local guide in his own car, reuturning to Agadez via Temet and Arakao? How much should I expect to pay for the guide on my own? I have also been thinking to hire Abdou Borgi, the Touareg Guide advertising in your Sahara Overland book: how are his rates compared to those of a local guide? Does he know the areas he specialises is well?

Congratulations on your great work and website!!!

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Hi Alberto

..... how long should it take to do the Tenere Loop route, with a local guide in his own car, reuturning to Agadez via Temet and Arakao?

2 weeks minimum. It's a great trip. See
http://www.sahara-overland.com/Sfiles/tenere.htm
if you have not already

How much should I expect to pay for the guide on my own?

Dont know the latest price, about 50 euros a day?? But they may not like 1 car only.

I have also been thinking to hire Abdou Borgi, the Touareg Guide advertising in your Sahara Overland book: how are his rates compared to those of a local guide?

Abdou is based in Djanet or Paris - so an Agadez guide would be much cheaper. I am sure people can recommend guides there. There are several agencies in town.

Does he know the areas he specialises is well?

He is more of an Algeria guy, I assume and would not bother with a single car but farm it out (I would guess).

Congratulations on your great work and website!!!

thanks, see you

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For guides located in Agadez, I can recommend Touareg Tours, run by Aghali Alambo. No nonsense, very professional. He speaks French (and German, I believe) but no English.

Telephone: 00 22 744 10 13.
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You must have a minimum of 2 4x4 vehicles to be allowed through the police checkpoints at Agadez and Chirfa to cross the Tenere. It's a matter of safety. Best to look for other travelers to hook up with. Most basic trips do it in 7-10 days, depending on how far north you cross. Pricey trip, expect at least $150 USD per day, per tourist, could be alot more. Lots of guides in Agadez. Lots of agencies. Look on the internet for more sites. You may pay a premium for a guide that speaks good English if you cannot speak French.
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Dear Chris, John & Kevin,

Thanks a lot for your kind and most welcomed replies to my requests for info about the tour of the Tenere!!!

Very best of luck to you all!!!

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