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Weather is getting better.

The last days to Uliastay we had lot of rain, but with a 4x4 no problem.

Now we are heading down to altai and then to Olgii, so I will know soon
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Hi Klaus,

Assuming that weather is turning normal again, I had a more general question. Does it make sense to take the road from Olgii to Altaj and then to Uliastaj (I think the road you are taking) if we want to visit the Khar Nuur (Zakhvan) North West of Uliastaj?
And then Jargalant / Tariat (lake) / Kharkorin Monastary and to Ulaambatar?
Or does it make sense to go more directly from Olgii ovet Kyargas Nuur to Khar Nuur and the earlier mentioned sites?
Over Altaj I think it is much longer but better roads so actually shorter in time and more comfortable? (I know, vomfortability is not a reason to go to Mongolia )

Maybe we see each other on the way because we are coming up from Kyrgystan.

Thanks in advance!
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Does it make sense to take the road from Olgii to Altaj and then to Uliastaj (I think the road you are taking) if we want to visit the Khar Nuur (Zakhvan) North West of Uliastaj?
And then Jargalant / Tariat (lake) / Kharkorin Monastary and to Ulaambatar?
I think that is ok.

You have asphalt and from Altai to Uliastay good gravelroad.

And after Uliastay to Telmen gravel and construction, but ok.
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I have now finished my trip but I wanted to provide some information that may be helpful to anyone looking for the direct rout from the eastern border to Ulaangom.

In Tsagaannuur right after you enter from the Russian Altai there is a petrol station at the road intersection at the town. Across the road there's a guy who lives in the yurt with his family. He is able to guide one across the nasty mud/water crossing that lies between here and the most direct way to Ulaangom. Google maps shows it as a road and I can assure you it is NOT and some of the worst mosquitoes I have ever experienced.

The guide asked me for a lot - I think 3000 rubles for what took about 3 hours of work guiding and walking through water and mudd to get my 4x4 across. But to me it was worth it - the scenery on this route in incredible and it is very remote (zero tourists). To me it was the highlight of my time in Mongolia.

His name is Khumar Khan, phone +97695015400.

Sorry could not post the information sooner, but I hope this helps future travellers!
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To add, I do not agree that Altai to Uliastaj is a good gravel road. Only the part near Uliastaj is reasonable.
The rest of the road is either swerving or has stones or holes or whatever. It can be done, even with a Prius, but the average speed is low so you will spend most of your day.
I am talking about the red road in Open Street Maps.

It may not even be that bad to go from Olgii pretty direct over Khyargas lake, but there are parts where it is hard to find the right track and so on. Scenery should be nice.

I was not that impressed by the scenery from Olgii to Altaj.
Khar Us Nuur was nice. And we went to Chandmani because of the Mongolian throat singing.
The roads to and from Chandmani were not that good obviously, as expected, but even they were not slower then from Altaj to Uliastaj :P
Also went to Dorgon/Durgun nuur, where on the east side the sand dunes meet the water, quite nice.

Now we will head into Zavkan with some tracks probably also driving in sand tracks etc. Then join the middle route and see how much is asphalt

As said from Khovd to Altaj is very good asphalt. Between Olgii and Khovd is not finished yet so that takes time. In 2019 probably very smooth.
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Wll, I have done the road Altai - Uliastay 4 weeks ago.

And I was amazed how good it was compare to years earlier.

But yes, it is still offroad
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Haha then it must have been a complete mudpit before.
Fortunately around the Gants pass the road is good.

I drove all the road in 2wd, it is not that hard even though there has been a bit of rain. Only the rocky part is dangerous for normal cars.
Just very slow. Maybe a bit faster on the bike.
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