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I will gladly pay 1000 usd.
That is same as 2 hours in a titty bar. Steak and lobster for 4 at the Palm in NYC,, din din for two at Maxims in Paris,,, 50 masssages in Bangkok,, getting kicked off Easy Jet !
Or get run over by a Paki trucker.
Only once in a life time or two,,,,
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I will gladly pay 1000 usd.
That is same as 2 hours in a titty bar. Steak and lobster for 4 at the Palm in NYC,, din din for two at Maxims in Paris,,, 50 masssages in Bangkok,, getting kicked off Easy Jet !
Or get run over by a Paki trucker.
Only once in a life time or two,,,,
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That is all very well but we could do nothing on the border. It was no longer a question of money. We couldn't get in because we didn't have it and you can only get a double entry for Tajikistan therefore effectively stuck.
The post was put up to ensure anyone going through the Ishkashim border was aware of the situation this season. It was our experience at the time and I'm sure this will change again next year.
If you want to drop $1000 for shit you posted above then that is fine, I would rather spend it elsewhere!
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That is all very well but we could do nothing on the border. It was no longer a question of money. We couldn't get in because we didn't have it and you can only get a double entry for Tajikistan therefore effectively stuck.
The post was put up to ensure anyone going through the Ishkashim border was aware of the situation this season. It was our experience at the time and I'm sure this will change again next year.
If you want to drop $1000 for shit you posted above then that is fine, I would rather spend it elsewhere!
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hi! im driving a jeep from spain, now in dushanbe and planning on crossing on other borther than iskashim since i already pass that area, ill go on wednesday to the embassy in dushanbe and ask for the right info, if i understood correctly, you have to pay 200 on the embassy and 100 at the border? sorry if you are tired of talking about this... also, im trying to go to iran from afganistan, did you have any recent info on the situation in the country?
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Our experience was with the consulate in Khorog. I heard it was 200 USD at the consulate and a further 100 USD on entry. Do you have a double entry for Tajikistan incase things go wrong? You may need to re enter.
Check your countries status with Afghanistan. French nationals would get immediately extracted on entry, I guess they are sick of paying for and denying ransom fees to AQIM, haha.
Let us know how you get on.
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Check your countries status with Afghanistan. French nationals would get immediately extracted on entry,
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How so? (Je ne comprende pas).
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How so? (Je ne comprende pas).
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Moi non plus.
But it is interesting that the french consular service explicitly names the Wakhan in its travel warnings.
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"Notable incidents in recent months
The increase in incidents involving terrorists infiltrated using police uniforms or military, false diplomatic plates and fake cards of the police;
suicide attacks involving an increasing number of suicide bombers covering both Western targets qu'afghanes (institutions, police, army);
the seasonal increase in attacks (IEDs, or IED English) explosives;
increased risk of kidnappings of Westerners, both in Kabul and in the provinces.
Recommendations
These events are a reminder that the security situation in the country does not improve, especially for foreigners.
Under these conditions, all tourism trip to Afghanistan is prohibited."
We were speaking to a Latvian who was there a few weeks prior to us, he only went in for a week but made good friends with a high ranking official on the border. He told him the news. The Afghan border guards will give passport numbers straight to the French Embassy, who will come get you... apparently.
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Moi non plus.
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Under these conditions, all tourism trip to Afghanistan is prohibited."
The Afghan border guards will give passport numbers straight to the French Embassy, who will come get you... apparently."
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Hmmm, so it is not just the UK FCO that publishes all kinds of views about security situations in far flung corners of the world.
But, whereas the UK goverment "advises", the French government "prohibits".
Unless the Afghan border guards are prepared to apprehend said French nationals I can't see the embassy staff, miles away and safely ensconced behind the high walls in Kabul, doing anything effective, or timely, toward removing their own nationals from Afghan territory.
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Hmmm, so it is not just the UK FCO that publishes all kinds of views about security situations in far flung corners of the world.
But, whereas the UK goverment "advises", the French government "prohibits".
Unless the Afghan border guards are prepared to apprehend said French nationals I can't see the embassy staff, miles away and safely ensconced behind the high walls in Kabul, doing anything effective, or timely, toward removing their own nationals from Afghan territory.
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Maybe, but I heard itvwas a case of a heli extraction with the cost going to said tourists... thats what I heard. When your paying out 20 mil to free your people in West Africa you kind of want to limit that, especially when people know the French will pay up.
Depending on security I plan to cycle the valley in the next few years aftervour vehicle experience.
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That is really strange, I cannot believe, that French citizens are really regularly extracted before entering nogo-areas, there must at least be a notice of that in their travel advices. The French would not have any legitimacy to prevent their citizens traveling abroad (if the country is not under French Sovereignty).
It would be much simpler to enforce the no-visa policy at the remaining consulates (Bishkek, Khorog), that still give hazzle-free visas to tourists.
But I heard from a traveller, that he was astonished to meet American officials, when going back to Uzbekistan (he went over the same border to get in). They took his personal data, so he is now on a list of people, that have visited Afghanistan.
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That is really strange, I cannot believe, that French citizens are really regularly extracted before entering nogo-areas, there must at least be a notice of that in their travel advices. The French would not have any legitimacy to prevent their citizens traveling abroad (if the country is not under French Sovereignty).
It would be much simpler to enforce the no-visa policy at the remaining consulates (Bishkek, Khorog), that still give hazzle-free visas to tourists.
But I heard from a traveller, that he was astonished to meet American officials, when going back to Uzbekistan (he went over the same border to get in). They took his personal data, so he is now on a list of people, that have visited Afghanistan.
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Its just what I heard Chris, I was just putting the info out for the Spaniard concerned. Forewarned is forearmed.
I actually got my source wrong (speaking to my girlfriend) It was a French couple who we travelled with extensively in Mongolia. They asked the embassy in Dushanbe and that is what they were told. I have no reason to doubt them, but maybe the embassy was trying to put them off... either way, not being French myself I do not know. Take from it what you will.
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Thank you for the clarification Griff.
BTW here are pictures of a bike trip this year to Sarhad.
But having been 3 times in the Tajik Pamir, I would rather recommend to do the touring there, the options are far greater (not only standard Pamir Hwy or the so called Tajik Wakhan), landscape being not less spectacular, and you have no dead end road like to Sarhad. But why not both?
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Maybe, but I heard itvwas a case of a heli extraction with the cost going to said tourists...
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I had this kind of image in mind, strangely - a sort of enormous "skyhook" that swoops down and lifts all French nationals up, up and away; perhaps with a big sign - something like "Francois Hollande says non non".
Or maybe this concept is based on the mountain rescue services that charge a person who gets into difficulty and has to be removed from some difficult-to-access location.
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But I heard from a traveller, that he was astonished to meet American officials, when going back to Uzbekistan (he went over the same border to get in). They took his personal data, so he is now on a list of people, that have visited Afghanistan.
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Now that I can believe.
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but maybe the embassy was trying to put them off...
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............... that makes a lot of sense.
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