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Black Sea Coast Road: Georgia to Ukraine
Has anyone ridden this road? Any observations such as can someone on a European passport get through, is it safe, etc? I maintain a Russian multi-entry visa in my passport for work.

Planning a trip for next year.

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Crossing between Russia and Georgia was covered in this thread.
Conclusion: You need to go through a third country as R & G are not on speaking terms.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...a-please-35655
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Thanks Chris,

I might see if there are ferries that go from Georgia to Ukraine.

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UKRFERRY SHIPPING COMPANY thats the thing Il'ichevsk(odessa)-Poti 2 days in the sea.
but mind it's easy to go from Odessa to Poti 'cos ukrainian side try to act european way. to get on board in Poti is difficult as hell. one must book a place a month and a half beforehand and it will be a miracle if you manage to make a deal with georgian representative. we didn't sucseed last year and had to go to stambul and took a vessel from there to sevastopol. the office tel in Poti is +995(393)219-98 the directors name is Malkhaz Pochkhua his mobile is +995-77406617.
month ago being in odessa we dropped in UKRFERRY headquarters and were told georgian side is fully "independent" in all means and ukrferry itself takes no responsibility for timetable and passenger list in Poti. in odessa the man in command is Andrey do not remember surname i belive he speaks fair english.
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Just go long way around the Caucasus by the other coast road ... the Caspian sea coast road.

From Georgia, head East on the southern side of the caucasus thru Azerbaijan till you to get to the Caspian, turn north, cross into Russia and then cross back west to the Black Sea in Russia, North of the Caucasus
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Have you ridden through Dagestan? I didn't think it was safe?

That's why I was thinking about getting the ferry.

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Just go long way around the Caucasus by the other coast road ... the Caspian sea coast road.

From Georgia, head East on the southern side of the caucasus thru Azerbaijan till you to get to the Caspian, turn north, cross into Russia and then cross back west to the Black Sea in Russia, North of the Caucasus
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we rode a fair bit of it
Hi There,

We rode a large section of the road from Sochi back towards the Ukraine after crossing the black sea from Turkey (Trabzon). Overall the traffic was shocking in late July and the surface was not to bad. However in the 400km (approx) that we did on that section of road we saw no fewer than 5 fatal accidents and numerous other head on accidents/minor accidents.. It seemed to us that when Russians go on holidays road rules apply even less than usual... quiet scary at times on a motorcycle..

On a plus side the scenery is really nice in the mountains, there are some great things to see and do in the area and it was well worth it.

We didn't cross over into georgia or ukraine so I can't give you any more information on that front )
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the Lars is open
the status is marked as "multi-national"
for those who read russian
that's the list of all russian border crossings Просмотр документа | Росграница
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Well I for one have a cool pint waiting for any non-CIS-passport-holding HUBBer who tests this out conclusively for the rest of us!

This would surely be an incredible revelation for overland travel in Europe and Asia if it's true. I for one would go to any effort possible to avoid going through bloody Azerbaijan, and taking that damned Caspian ferry again.


Though I myself will probably not get the chance to try the potential new route for some years
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the Lars is open
the status is marked as "multi-national"
Hey Belka ... I strongly suspect that "multinational" also includes "CIS only" ... since CIS is more than 2 countries Multi does not mean "any", it means more than 2. I notice this document does not have a category for "CIS only" so I suspect the pogranichniki just classify CIS-only borders as "multi-national".

I will be very happy to be wrong ... and will buy the second pint for the first non CIS traveller through there.
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It's issued as Road and multinational, as all other international border crossing points but you never know ???

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So we can be sure when somebody has cross it ????
Will be there on August and can check but it's probably to late for this summer travelers.
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Hallo,
two years ago me and two friends of mine made a full tour around the Black Sea from Bulgaria anticlockwise. We reached the port of Poti in Georgia. It was impossible to continue north because of the war. We went back to Trabzon and took a ferry to Sochi. From Sochi we drove south in Abhazia. We have visas for Abhazia as EU citizens, which you can get in Suhumi. In order to get a visa you have to send an email to Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Abhasia and get an invitation. The visa costs 30 USD. You enter Abhasia with the invitation and you go out with the visa. In this sense it is a permission to exit the country. The whole journey took 26 days and everything went well.
Unfortunately I think roads between Georgia and Russia will stay closed for a long time, including Verhni Lars which was a military road and was open for refugees

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