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bringing this topic back from the dead.....
i have heard that the borders are going to open at 1/3/2010
is that true?
planing to do a black sea round trip this year and i am searching my option...
tnx in advance
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bringing this topic back from the dead.....
i have heard that the borders are going to open at 1/3/2010
is that true?
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forget about it 
coast road from georgia to russia (via Abkhazia) is closed
The unpassable border is georgia to abkhazia. This border will not be opened in nearest 10 years at least. 
You can go around Caspian sea 
Europe - Turkey - Iran - Turkmenistan - Kazahstan - Russia - Azerbaijan - Georgia - Turkey (south coast of Black sea from Rize to Istambul) - back to Europe 
This is passable. But be ready to 200-500km legs without fuel stations on east Caspian coast. 
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Took the UKRFERRY from POTI to ODESSA in June 2010.
No problem getting the ticket in Poti. Shedule was rather unpredictable.
Comfortable ferry 
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Took the UKRFERRY from POTI to ODESSA in June 2010.
No problem getting the ticket in Poti. Shedule was rather unpredictable.
Comfortable ferry
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Guy,
I'm thinking of taking the same ferry as you did but from Odessa to Poti later this year. I've been to their web site for info but there is one bit of impotant info I have been unable to find, the price for 1 person + motorbike one way! Appreciate if you could let me know how much you paid.
Cheers
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Black Sea ferries
I took Trabzon - Sochi ferry a few months ago and it was $370 for one person plus bike. No doubt Odessa /Poti one (are you aure this is running?? It wasn't a few months ago) will be the same as they know you've got no choice with Russia /Georgia borders closed and hike up the prices...
Info about our trip is here Black C90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stelao
bringing this topic back from the dead.....
i have heard that the borders are going to open at 1/3/2010
is that true?
planing to do a black sea round trip this year and i am searching my option...
tnx in advance
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Well yes, kind of, but no ... not really.
The plan was to open the Verkhny Lars border crossing between Russia (North Ossetia) and Georgia (in the middle of the Caucasus mountains) ... that was the plan. What happens in reality is another matter. Whether that border is then open to CIS citizens only, or becomes a full international border is yet another question. The only reason they are opening it (or planning to open it) is to help Armenia, which is Russias main ally in the South Caucasus, so it probably will be a border for CIS (plus Georgia) citizens only.
As for the Black Sea coast road, as Dean says, there now is no coast road joining Russian and Georgia. Abkhazia is now in the way. And you cant cross into Abkhazia from Georgia. Until Georgia recognises Abkhazia's independence (and that may take some time) there can obviously never be an open border there.
So I wouldnt plan anything just yet until we see what is the nature of the Verkhny Lars border. And I would be sceptical of it becoming some sort of open season for general travellers. That whole area is VERY militarised.
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tnx mates 
I am currently checking my options for a ferry from Georgia to Russia. Unfortunately i do not have the time to go round Caspian sea.... so i have to find another way. It seems that boats are operating from Batumi to Sochi but i can find only hydrofil ones...
Does anyone knows if there is a ferry from Georgia (Batumi, oti or somewhere else) to Russia?
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tnx mates
I am currently checking my options for a ferry from Georgia to Russia. Unfortunately i do not have the time to go round Caspian sea.... so i have to find another way. It seems that boats are operating from Batumi to Sochi but i can find only hydrofil ones...
Does anyone knows if there is a ferry from Georgia (Batumi, oti or somewhere else) to Russia?
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There is only one "ferry" between Georgia and Russia ... its a Bulgarian ship called "Sredets" ... schedules are normally 3 or 4 times a month. But they only ever seem to have one months schedule planned up at a time.
The ferry sails to and from Bulgaria via Novorossiysk in Russia and Poti in Georgia. i.e. you can get on in Poti and off a day and a half later in Novorossiysk.
Its rumoured to be very "basic".
Try this web site:
::: INTERSHIPPING :::
Please return the info and let us know as much information as possible about the route after you contact them and find it all out.
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tnx colebatchi
i will post my findings
tnx again
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tnx mates
I am currently checking my options for a ferry from Georgia to Russia.
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Also I'm not sure about possibility of it.
The ferry you can take for sure is Trabzon (Turkey) - Sochi (Russia)
There is several ships and you'll have to wait in Trabzone no longer than 2 days.
then a ferry from port Caucasus to Port Crimea - 6 times a day (It will take approx 5 hours total with waiting ship-trip and customs procedure.
then kerch-sudak-alushta-yalta-sevastopol-evpatoriya-armyansk-odessa
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tnx DEAN Rus
I have already checked the Trabzon-Sochi option but according to the
Commercial Sea Port of Sochi
the ferry its TOO expensive
~250€ (passenger+bike) for a 12hour cruise!!!!!!!!!!
I will check if there is another cheaper ferry
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there is NO way around Black sea !!!
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~250€ (passenger+bike) for a 12hour cruise!!!!!!!!!!
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if (I do not say when, I say _if_) kazbegi-verhni lars opens the trip can be as follows:
trabzon-poti-gori-lars-vladikavkaz-nevinomissk-kropotkin-krasnodar-port kavkaz
1432km with at least 1 night (closer to Lars, on Georgian or Russian side of border)
If not (this is much much much more possible) - much longer
trabzon-poti-gori-kutaisi-tbilisi-derbent-mahachkala-grozny-nevinomissk-kropotkin-krasnodar-port kavkaz
3 borders (6 customs), including 2 in AZ. not less than 4 hours for every border.
2275km and 3 (THREE at least, maybe four) nights. Kidnapping possible in dagestan and chechnya.
calculate gasolin+food+hotel and compare to the night ferry (hotel+food+delivery 3-in-1)
BTW: are your family ready to pay 20000 Euros to kidnappers?
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Dean, vtoroi variant ne mozhno ... Derbent granitsa (AZ-RU) tolko dlya SNG grazhdanin.
Unfortunately the 2nd option outlined by Dean is not possible unless (like Dean) you have a CIS passport up your sleeve. The border between Azerbaijan and Russia is only open to CIS citizens. I am sure the Georgia - Russia border (if it opens) will be the same.
Basically, take a boat as Dean says. Black Sea as things stand right now, is the only way.
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if (I do not say when, I say _if_) kazbegi-verhni lars opens the trip can be as follows:
trabzon-poti-gori-lars-vladikavkaz-nevinomissk-kropotkin-krasnodar-port kavkaz
1432km with at least 1 night (closer to Lars, on Georgian or Russian side of border)
If not (this is much much much more possible) - much longer
trabzon-poti-gori-kutaisi-tbilisi-derbent-mahachkala-grozny-nevinomissk-kropotkin-krasnodar-port kavkaz
3 borders (6 customs), including 2 in AZ. not less than 4 hours for every border.
2275km and 3 (THREE at least, maybe four) nights. Kidnapping possible in dagestan and chechnya.
calculate gasolin+food+hotel and compare to the night ferry (hotel+food+delivery 3-in-1)
BTW: are your family ready to pay 20000 Euros to kidnappers?
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open again !
As I read in local newspapers in BAKU (and also Turkiye), border is going to open this week.
Better to check officially and in a certain way by Georgia Community befor departure...
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bringing this topic back from the dead.....
i have heard that the borders are going to open at 1/3/2010
is that true?
planing to do a black sea round trip this year and i am searching my option...
tnx in advance
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