Hello,

Im looking into a trip this year if the worldwide situation allows it.
I have a few questions.

This will be my first time outside Europe. I have been travelling by motorcycle around Balkans earlier, this time i want a bigger adventure.

Im 33, driving africa twin 1100.
My route so far is Norway - Turkey - Georgia - Azerbaijan - Ferry to.. From this point im not sure if i should take ferry to Kazakhstan or Turmenistan then east through Pamir - Up north to Kazakhstan - Russia (got relatives 100km from Kazakhstan border - Trough Russia back to Norway.

My qestions is. Is my bike too heavy for this trip?
How much time does it takes from Istanbul and to Osh?

Starting in early June.
If anyone got any tips, dont hesitate.

Thanks

Bike suitability depends on your ability. There will be unmade roads, but if you stick to them there shouldn't be deep sand. Don't plan to go to Turkmenistan, visas are notoriously hard to get and half are refused for no apparent reason. Baku-Aktau is a better route but be aware the boat doesn't go to a timetable, it sails when it's full. You will need fuel range min. 400 kms as fuel is scarce and of low quality in Uzbekistan and the Pamirs.

The route you describe will be around 20,000 kms. That's very ambitious especially allowing for rest, servicing and sightseeing. You will run yourself ragged doing that. High mileage days are possible of course, but not advisable over a long period, plus on some of the poorer roads out there you will struggle to do a long distance. More than 300 kms per day (on average) is pushing it, and you would miss seeing anything in the places you're going. Who wants a trip where the only thing you see is the road ahead?

That said, this route should be a great trip if you allow enough time. I plan to do something quite similar, but going between the UK and Magadan, and not until 2022 as I think there will still be a lot of travel restrictions in place this year. You shouldn't need a carnet if you don't go through Iran, and the only visa you'll need to arrange in advance is Russia.

If you haven't already, have a good read of www.caravanistan.com which is a brilliant travel resource.

Hello and welcome to the forum,
I was going to give you some advice but basically I second what Tomkat said, I would allow more time and have a plan B in case things don't open up.

Planning similar route, albeit more slowly. For Uzbekistan lots of people recommend bringing a cheap fuel filter: Fuel Filter Funnel

There's no ferry to Turkmenistan anymore; at least there weren't in 2019, and it is next to impossible to get Turkmen visa. They only issue 5 day transit visa, you have to be coming from Iran and they give GPS tracker so you don't stray.

Bike is fine as long as you fill comfortable riding it in deep sand. The distances between gas stations unpredictable in northern KZ and UZ, you'd need to carry spare fuel. My bike gets about 210-230mi (330-370km) and I ran dry a few times. There is a 500km stretch in northern Uzbekistan without fuel.

The ferry is an old soviet rusty bucket, but food was ok and they fed 4 times. There is no schedule, ferry leaves when they get 30 trucks and it could be a few days or you may have to wait for next one.Ticket was $180 and there was also port fee. I paid $30 for fixer to do my paperwork. He said he can do it in advance if you send him documents; I might have his whatsapp somewhere.. Port is south of Baku, 1hr+ IIRC.

I think at every point in your trip, there will be an opportunity to take an "easy" road whenever there is a "hard" road. So an Africa Twin should do just fine. You can get yourself in trouble, but only if you want to.

If you only have two months to spend, you can have a better adventure than spending all of it on a transit stage. And I say that as someone who has regularly done Tallinn to Arctic Norway and back in a 4-day long weekend.

Want to spend 2 months on a big adventure? Fly to a great destination, rent a bike locally, fly back.

It's kinda expensive 1993 Africa Twin was $85/day, XT600 was $95 and SWM Superdual was $110/day when I asked around in Osh.

Marat at Silkoffroad -motorcycle tours and rent in Central Asia does some pretty good tours, bikes, guides and backup vehicles provided.

That's well in line with big-bike rental prices anywhere in the world.

Not only are you saving time on transit (which is very valuable to someone doing adventures while keeping their job), but you're not putting wear and tear on your own motorcycle getting there, not buying new tires and other spare parts, not suffering the depreciation of the bike if it's new... And if you arrive there, you don't have to hire the bike for your entire holiday. You don't have to pay the rent on the days you will spend checking out the sites that are easily accessible by public transport, organized tours, etc.

I wouldn't exactly call bypassing Balkans, Turkey and Caucas "saving time on transit", those perhaps even better destinations than stans and yes cost of rentals is the same as in Europe so you might as well ride your own IMO. Storage is inexpensive ~$15/mo you can leave your bike there and fly next time to continue trip.

Its all paved... except for construction zones and the Wakan corridor and over the Pamir pass (which are hard gravelled).

Dont sweat it. Still its a lot if driving.

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rotflol.

I'm in a similar situation, I will be 33 tomorrow, I would like to do your exact same trip or similar, willing to reach Kyrgyzstan from Italy travelling for 2 months.

Only thing is that I would like to travel on a 1976 honda cb400f and don't know if it's doable or not.

It's doable given right tires, patience and right route choice.

Be careful if you decide to do Pamir highway the section north of Murhab has vicious washboard your CB may not have enough suspension to cruise on it at 70kmh. The other sections along Afghani border get paved and thoroughly destroyed by overloaded trucks coming from China but it shouldn't be problem as long as you slowdown to deal with it. Wuhan valley doesn't see much heavy traffic so it is better.

Generally main roads are in good shape but the older ones hadn't been maintained since they have been paved in soviet era, but if you have good sand tires you can just get off and ride in the field like locals do good luck.

As I recall he posted a similar question on the HUBB facebook page and was generally warned off using a "classic" bike to do the journey. Aside from the impossibility of getting spares if something goes wrong, he'll put a lot of wear and tear and possible damage on the bike which will a shame on a classic machine. If he's happy to do the trip on a road bike something like a CB500T or SV650 would be better.