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Mongolian border seems the only way to enter China without local plates and licenses.
Last month five russian motorbikers tried to enter china from pakistan and were refused.
Offical answer was 'Now transit for the motorbikes!'
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Mongolian border seems the only way to enter China without local plates and licenses.
Last month five russian motorbikers tried to enter china from pakistan and were refused.
Offical answer was 'Now transit for the motorbikes!'
Kazakh border is a passable. I did it last summer by my own Africa Twin (registered in Russia) without chinese guides, plates and licenses. I have had a chinese visa only. I entered china without any bribes, helpers and trucks by my 2 wheels only. I have spent a 2 weeks (8000 kms) in china and Tibet. I have been in Lhasa and Everest base camp without any permits and guides. Noone stoped me during my trip. The PSB helped me to finde a cheap hotel when I stoped at the big chemical plant at night.
Do not take a beaten tracks. Try to do it at small border crossing like Druzhba (Kaz), Taikeshken (Mongolia) without a unnecessary fuss. China is a big country and what is impossible in te west is possible in the east.
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Marvellous, thanks for the info.

Any idea on how to get from Nepal into Tibet without agency and minder? We are about to shell out 6000 Euro each for 45 days.
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Interesting to hear youve made it with no guides or other budget-drying pain-in-the-ass paperwork and preparations, which the "official" way seems to be so full of..

So after you´ve got in, after that youre relatively free to ramble? My plan would be to go all the way from Kazakh border into Laos. May be its a different story in central or south China, well, who knows, I guess one would just have to go and try ones luck. Maybe if they stop you, you tell them your coming from Laos, and they´ll then nicely kick you "back" there.. ?!?

But if the worst happens and you have a bad accident where some locals get hurt, you´d probably be in big trouble, when you have no official permission to be there.

There´s a guy who went into South China earlier this year from Laos (on a Chinese-registered bike) and he had no big troubles getting in, but the right plates probably helped him decisively. He, too, was free to go inside the country, though he had some trouble getting into Tibet, but still managed to do that. He posted some tremendous reports and pictures into the gt-rider forum, too bad he got in an accident and hurt his knee quite badly.
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Any update on paperwork to enter China?
I am planning trip to Nepal, through China, so I kindly ask for any information how to get in and out of China without having to register bike there and without guides.
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Any update on paperwork to enter China?
I am planning trip to Nepal, through China, so I kindly ask for any information how to get in and out of China without having to register bike there and without guides.
Thanks!
That's a tall order. Got a Magic 8-ball handy?

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....I kindly ask for any information how to get in and out of China without having to register bike there and without guides.
Fireblade,

DON'T try Korgos. Too well sewn up.
We were there in late June '07 and a Norwegian guy, Helga, arrived with no papers. Sent back to Kaz in a very short time. He left the bike in Kaz, entered buy bus and then flew to Thailand.

They really have tightened things up since June last year.

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Well he could try. My guess is it's a combination of factors. It may depend on the origin of your passport, which border you cross into and who you happen to meet that day.

It's a toss of the dice but right now the odds don't look in your favor. That said, if you're determined you can still give it a try.

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