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Start reading at the beginning. You need originals of everything, or you risk being turned back (or worse).
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Couple more questions:

1) A "passport copy" is just a scan of the passport page with all your info printed on to a piece of A4 paper right?

2) When it comes to copies of paperwork like vehicle registrations, do you have to make them look as real as possible? Like can you get rejected at the border of a non-first world country with an obvious copy of your vehicle registration?
One thing you should keep in mind:

A Copy which is made that it looks as the original document is in the opinion of police or customs forged.

In case that they don't think thats funny you are possibly in jail for that.

A forged document is a forged document.
you can print copy or anything like this on the document to avoid that.
But if it makes sense?

I Know, a lot of travellers laminate they driver Licence or anything else, I have done it once too, but I don't do it anymore because of serious problems who can happen.
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2) When it comes to copies of paperwork like vehicle registrations, do you have to make them look as real as possible? Like can you get rejected at the border of a non-first world country with an obvious copy of your vehicle registration?
Many official documents carry watermarks, which will not exist in the copies. In my personal experience, even the border staff of many "non-first world" countries know to look for these, and it will cause problems if they don't find them. Just bring the originals already...

I used to carry a copy to be presented to the average corrupt cop, but over time I found that this generally isn't necessary and just led to confusion/problems at borders when I presented the copy instead of the original. That said, another reason to use a copy for police is to save wear and tear on the original title--at least mine was obviously not designed to be carried around in all weather and folded/unfolded repeatedly for presentation to authorities. It is looking a bit...frayed.

[EDIT] One other tip, at least for people from some US states: my state will actually issue a duplicate title (same as the original but with the word "DUPLICATE"), so in an abundance of caution sometimes I'll bring a duplicate title just in case the first one gets lost/destroyed/pocketed by corrupt cop. So far have never had to use one...
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Start reading at the beginning. You need originals of everything, or you risk being turned back (or worse).
Sorry I should have made it clear, I'm definitely taking the originals of all my paperwork and I'm not looking to leave the originals at home. I'm purely asking questions about why/what/who/how/where regarding the copies of the paperwork.
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Russia requires original copies of registration documents. One time I was there I met some Guys who had to wait at the border for their originals to sent to them by DHL.
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Yeah, definitely carry original copies of everything, even if it's drenched in mud and the ink ran off!

Officials at EVERY border want to see registration papers, but they don't bother to check expiry dates because it's not relevant in their own country. They just want to make sure that you didn't steal the bike...!
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