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Old 10 May 2013
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Japan CDP vs. Customs Form C5014
Hello
I entered Japan on my CDP by seacontainer at Osaka.
I already had it and I only knew it that way.
You need a translation from the JAF.

Well travelling in Japan is so slow due to a max 50km/h and no passing rule almost all over Japan.
I also enjoyed Japan so I wanted to stay longer than planned.
So thats where the CDP became a bitch.
It was running out on May 10th so I tried several options.
1.You can extend it via the JAF. But this takes several week and needs a good reason.

2.You can go over the time of the CDP and then the custom will not stamp out the CDP but will use instead this Form:
Customs Form C5014

Afterwards the JAF will ask your CDP issuer for the Tax, 5% of the value.
In my case this would have been 169 usd but I didn't wanna take the risk messing with a CDP.
3.Best is to get the Bike from the beginning on using Customs Form C5014.
Because I already was on the CDP the custom was unable to chsnge to Customs Form C5014.
Finally I left Japan as originally planned, not being able to eat as much sushi as I wanted.
Sorry for the bad Fotos.
I take no responsability if any of this information is wrong , that is what Osaka customs explained me, verify it for yourself before shipping to Japan.
sushi
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Thanks for the info.
Note that you can usually only use Customs Form C5014 if you enter by ferry.
It might be possible by container, but I have never heard of it happening.
Best to have a carnet if shipping by container/air because Japanese Customs doesn't usually like to do anything unless there is an instruction in their manual. You could be refused temporary import, so the risk is high.
Customs in Wakkanai (northernmost port) mostly use C5014. They use it in Wakkanai (the port for the ferry from Sakhalin, Russia) because the closest JAF office (for carnet validation) is almost 200 km away.

Here is a clean copy of C5014 if you want to download it:
http://www.customs.go.jp/kaisei/yous...m_C/C5014a.pdf
Here is the customs notice on temporary import by ferry (Japanese language only, but good to show customs people who may have not seen it before.) :
http://www.customs.go.jp/kaisei/zeik...U-S46k0849.pdf
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Hello Chris
I got the paper "Customs Form C5014" from a Swiss Biker on a 1200GS I met on a campground.
He entered at Narita (air) and used this form, but had to exlain them what he needed and they searched a while until they found it in the big book.
He took the bike several times to Japan, from Russia and Thailand, and never used the CDP.
One time he paid the 5% Tax of the value of the Bike.
Sadly I lost his contact card so can't ask for more details.
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Thanks for the followup sushi.
This is the first time I have heard of using that form except with a ferry. I guess if you want to take the risk of being refused entry, you can try. If you have contacts or previous experience in Japan it would help. A carnet, however, is almost a guarantee of being allowed to enter and ride in Japan.
Strictly speaking, by paying the 5% tax (soon to go up to 10%), it becomes a "permanent" import. Then (by law at least) you must register the bike in Japan, which is very expensive and difficult. Temporary imports are except from needing to register.
In fact, Swiss registered vehicles can't (again, legally) be used in Japan because Switzerland and Japan are signatories to different treaties (1968 vs 1949).
Now I am just quoting the rule books I have seen. If you are lucky, customs and police may make an exception or mistake. But my experience with the typical Japanese bureaucrat is that they want to do everything by the manual. If the manual doesn't exist, they just say "tough luck to you."
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In fact, Swiss registered vehicles can't (again, legally) be used in Japan because Switzerland and Japan are signatories to different treaties (1968 vs 1949).
Now I am just quoting the rule books I have seen. If you are lucky, customs and police may make an exception or mistake.
Hello Chris
????
Was I illegal riding in Japan?
At Osaka Customs they proceded my CDP and I never got stoped by the police.
So then my insurance was probably a waste of money as they might not have paid in an accident.
Well now I'm in Russia and I'm missing Japan so much.
The difference couldn't be bigger.
From Paradise to ehm....Russia.
My advice to others:
Go Russia to Japan -> never Japan to Russia.
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With luck, we should be shipping two bikes from China to Japan in about 4 weeks. With a lot of luck that is... as all freight options out of Tianjin seem to be falling over. I am not entirely happy with our tour company at present, but that could change depending on the outcome.

In any case, if we do get to Japan, I gather there should not be too much of an issue entering Japan with Australian registered bikes, both with CDP. At least that is the way I read the last few posts.

If anyone has heard differently, I would be very pleased to know.
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Hello Chris
????
Was I illegal riding in Japan?
At Osaka Customs they proceded my CDP and I never got stoped by the police.
So then my insurance was probably a waste of money as they might not have paid in an accident.
.
sushi
Yes, you were illegal. The insurance was not a waste, as most police officers
do not know much about international treaties. If you had had an accident,
it is most likely that the insurance would have paid out. As they themselves
do not know what vehicles are illegal. The only exception, might be in large
cities, or where someone was killed. Then there is a much higher chance of
then checking. I went into a prefectural police station and asked about Swiss
and German vehicles. They did not know and did not want to have to go look
up the answer.
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