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Heard that there is no need of CDP entering Japan from Sachalin, Russia to
Wakkanai, Hokkaido. Anyone who has done this recently by motorbike?
Thanks for any information. Uwe
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Uwe, hi there and greetings from Japan!

I heard the same, and bikers who came to my house indicated this, too!

Chris would be the best person to give you a 100% answer on this. Hope he will be here on the forum soon !!
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Hello Klaus,

thanks for answering.

I will give it a try anyway and start from UlaanBaatar soon.
Keep the fingers crossed.

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A German guy named Christian Schachtner told me he was going to try last month, but I haven't heard anything from him since then. Do you know of him, Klaus?

I just sent him an email. If I get an answer, I will tell you what he said.
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You ask for Chris and here he is !!!

No, have not heard anything from Christian until now. Maybe he will still contact me?

Anyway, if I am not all wrong it were either Heidi and Bernd on their KTMs last year or Alexandra and Andre this year who told me that no carnet was needed (maybe both couples???).

Hope we can verify this - the sooner the better! Oh, and I contacted Heidi and Bernd, waiting for an answer from them - they are in Panama right now *_*!
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Answer as of August 2012:

I just got an email from the German guy I mentioned.
He said that he came without a carnet on the ferry from Sakahlin to Wakkanai
Cost all together in Wakkanai port was about 20,000 yen (about US$250) for motorbike insurance, import tax and for the agent. Pay in YEN, so try to get yen before arriving. Or you will have to go to the city center to find a bank.

Ferry cost is 25,000 yen/person + 9,000 per motorcycle (according to website)

For your information, the ferry sails in September on
5, 7, 12, 14, 19, 21, 25, 28
WAKKANAI - SAKHALIN TIMETABLE - heartlandferry
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Finally we made it into Japan.

Costs as follows for 1 bike and 1 driver:

Vanino to Kholmsk: 6.250 Rubles
Korsakov to Wakkanei: 10.500 Rubles (passenger ticket)
4.000 Rubles (russian agent)
9.000 Yen (bike ticket)
20.000 Yen (japanese agent and bike insurance)

Still no carnet needed, but international driving license or translated national licence.

Bike needs to be clean for japanese customs, there is a car wash in Vanino.
Otherwise it can be done on the ferry with a high pressure cleaner.
But they like more if you show up "clean".

Found a place called Red Baron Riders Club, located close to Wakkanei Airport.
Rooms, camping and repair shop for bikers.

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Uwe good to hear that it still works that way.
So my / our information was correct.

YES, Red Baron Wakkanai is quite some decent place, providing everything you need for a pretty good fee. In case you decide to go to Kushiro, there is also a Red Baron Place! From Wakkanai go to Otaru (for example) from there you can get a ferry to "Mainland Japan" = Maizuru in the Kyoto area (but not very cheap, almost 23 hours on the boat). Before going to Maizuru there is a place called Kuchan (pretty small). I might be able to get you some "overnight-stay-info" there, too (a Japanese frined of mine lives there).

In case you need any help, please send me an e-mail klausdorth(at)web.de.

Have a great time over here and maybe ........
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Uwe,
If you are in the Nagano area in October, there will be a travelers meeting.
Please come if you are nearby!
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