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Ah Bribes aren't worth a months wages in Kaz anyway. Cops get paid the same and will let you off a speeding ticket for about $6-$10.
Yeah but a pair of cops will collect 50 of those in a day ... that adds up. Speeding isnt a big deal - its the default revenue raiser, thats all. Customs violations (or drink driving) are big deals and will cost you thousands to get out of.

A big deal at a customs post on an issue with a full audit trail with a lot of other people around is very very different from 30 unauditable seconds in the back of a cop car in the middle of nowhere.
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Yeah but a pair of cops will collect 50 of those in a day ... that adds up. Speeding isnt a big deal - its the default revenue raiser, thats all. Customs violations (or drink driving) are big deals and will cost you thousands to get out of.
I know, I know just having a joke.

I would not recommend this at all despite the endemic corruption.

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different from 30 unauditable seconds in the back of a cop car in the middle of nowhere.
Hah what about in the middle of a GAI post with 5 others standing around.
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Hello everybody,

I have a similar problem. I drove a car to Almaty, but the driver who would return the car to Holland cancelled on the last moment. I cannot find how long the car is able to stay in Kazakhstan under the temporary import document. I did not recieve any paperwork when entering the country.

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Hello everybody,

I have a similar problem. I drove a car to Almaty, but the driver who would return the car to Holland cancelled on the last moment. I cannot find how long the car is able to stay in Kazakhstan under the temporary import document. I did not recieve any paperwork when entering the country.

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Your docs will be from entering the customs union - not necessarily Kazakhstan - were u in Russia and or Belarus prior to KZ?

The first of those countries you entered will have issued the permit. These days they are for a standard 3 months from entering the customs zone.

The permit is a sticker placed on the back of your customs form that you filled out when you entered the customs union.

As mentioned it will almost certainly be for 3 months from date of entry
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He,

thanks for the reply. We entered through Russia, so we will probably have three months from the date of entry.

Thanks again!
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Hi ErikCH,

When you returned to Europe and left your car in Kazakhstan did you have any issues leaving the country?

Reason I ask this is that my brother is in Kazakhstan now with a broken rear wish bone with his Subaru Forester, and tells me its unlikely that its going to make it out of the country.

What is likely to happen/what should he do when he reaches the border with no car, having entered with a temporary import license?

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He Arch,

I never had any problems crossing into China without the car.

Neither on the Kazakh or the Chinese side did they mention the car.

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-1 get a new passport

-2 enter KZ overland this time by a road border (so you have a car stamp in your passport - car means you entered by road, not necessarily with your own car.

-3 Get out of KZ to either Kyrgyzstan or Uzbekistan. At the border say you are an idiot, very careless, and have lost the paper they gave you when you entered the country this time around. Hope they don't have a computer system. Have all your ownership documents which show you have owned the car for ages, and if they pick up that you entered with the car two years ago, say there must be a mistake, you have owned the car for ages, and that of course you came with it to KZ this time around. It could easily happen that you car was not entered correctly on some database somewhere.

-4 IF you get past this, then come back into KZ, re-enter the RUS - BY - KZ customs zone and get three months

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When I exited Kaz to Uz they did not take my customs document from Russia and I did not get another when I re entered Kaz from Kyg. I later used this customs document to exit Russia to Mongolia.

You could convinecably exit Kaz without the documents and maybe get through and then re enter and get the correct paperwork.

No certainty though and there would be a lot of trouble if you were caught.
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