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Stored my car in Kazakhstan for 2 years, how to leave Kaz now?
Hi,

I have stored my car in Kazakhstan after a trip in 2010. I had to go back to Europe again and this year I am going to travel again with that car.

Now, how can I best deal with this situation? How can I leave the country again to continue travel?

I understand (now) that the car was not allowed to stay that long in Kazachstan? Wat is the way to deal with this problem?

The car papers are with it and it has all the needed documents. I don't want to leave it there (too valuable).

Erik
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Well I have to say during my whole time in Kaz no one checked my temporary import documents. What about crossing into Uzbekistan or Kyrgystan and getting a new temporary import doicment on the way back in? Just a thought.
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Thanks for your quick answer!

Yes, I can give that a shot, but I have to have a plan B of course. What IF they ask for that document and I tell them I parked my car in Kaz for 2 years? They registered that may latest entry was in 2010 so I can't hide from that. Easy to check in my passport.

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well its not going to be easy

Your vehicle was by law imported into Kazakhstan as soon as it overstayed its temporary import permit and is technically owing import duty to the state. If you overstay the permit by a week or so you might get a slap on the wrist penalty at the border, but 2 years?

Getting it out of the Russia - Belarus - KZ customs zone should theoretically be impossible without them assessing the market value of your vehicle in KZ, and applying whatever import duty is due (probably 30-40% of its KZ value). You will almost surely have the problem realised when you attempt exit the common customs zone.

Good luck to you, but this is probably not going to end pretty.

There are plenty of threads on here saying you can not indefinitely store foreign vehicles in Russia or Kazakhstan ... only as long as the temporary import permit gives you grace against paying import duties.
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I know, it's a nasty situation. But where is it described, who is going to define the value?

It would be better cross via a small border I guess?

I need to find out more. Where are these things written down, which organisation can help me with more information about this?

BTW I did not find any info on this yet, do you remember any threads on this?

Erik.
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Use a small, remote border crossing.

Hand papers over.

If problems ensue, hand over a hundred dollars in increasing multiples until they let you through?

Will likely be cheaper than the tax....
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Hi ErikCH,

When you returned to Europe and left your car in Kazakhstan did you have any issues leaving the country?

Reason I ask this is that my brother is in Kazakhstan now with a broken rear wish bone with his Subaru Forester, and tells me its unlikely that its going to make it out of the country.

What is likely to happen/what should he do when he reaches the border with no car, having entered with a temporary import license?

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He Arch,

I never had any problems crossing into China without the car.

Neither on the Kazakh or the Chinese side did they mention the car.

Koen
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I would

-1 get a new passport

-2 enter KZ overland this time by a road border (so you have a car stamp in your passport - car means you entered by road, not necessarily with your own car.

-3 Get out of KZ to either Kyrgyzstan or Uzbekistan. At the border say you are an idiot, very careless, and have lost the paper they gave you when you entered the country this time around. Hope they don't have a computer system. Have all your ownership documents which show you have owned the car for ages, and if they pick up that you entered with the car two years ago, say there must be a mistake, you have owned the car for ages, and that of course you came with it to KZ this time around. It could easily happen that you car was not entered correctly on some database somewhere.

-4 IF you get past this, then come back into KZ, re-enter the RUS - BY - KZ customs zone and get three months

-5 Drive home
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When I exited Kaz to Uz they did not take my customs document from Russia and I did not get another when I re entered Kaz from Kyg. I later used this customs document to exit Russia to Mongolia.

You could convinecably exit Kaz without the documents and maybe get through and then re enter and get the correct paperwork.

No certainty though and there would be a lot of trouble if you were caught.
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