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Skiping China

I should be in the Stans in the beggining of August, and I definitely will not go in China. I't is just to complicted/expensive and it risky. You just can't be 100% sure in the agencies, what if you can't enter and get to know it on the border. Kiss the door and say goodbye! Open season for new transit visas. :confused1:

I checked, at Ishkashim and there should be no problem to enter Afghanistan. The problem is where to exit and enter Pakistan. And I doesn't feel comfortable to be there long, and Khyber Pass is long way south where the toubles are. But if the Dorah Pass is a way to Pakistan then I't shouldn't take more than a day to cross into it. It is near Chitral!

And I would like to see Wakhan.
For Wakhan coridor there is a special permit, you can get it at Ishkashim.
I don't know is it possible to get fuel in Wakhan, it is one of the most remote places on earth and local people there use horses.

Here is a good link for Wakhan:
2004 Mock & O'Neil Wakhan Expedition Report
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You might want a contingency plan if the Afgans don't let you in. A freind of mine had a perfectly valid Afganistan visa and when he got to the border, they simply refused to let him in. Could have just been bad luck or something particularly nasty going on at that time, but you should consider the possibility that the same thing could happen to you.
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Central Asia standard problems, things change fast.

At least it is not a such loss of money, Afghan visa is some 30 euro.
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Hi Nixa,

I wouldn't be too concerned about a guide not turning up. There's a few people who have been recommended. See here:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...van-cafe-32301

A friend of mine (see www.planitearth.co.uk) was nervous about the China thing as well. Still, he decided to do it and he said he would do it again. Guide was at the meeting point, excatly as agreed. I think it is in the interest of people like Newland Travel to not let anyone down. One bad experience on Horizons Unlimited, and they can forget about future customers. More good experience, however, means more customers for them. Just like David from Stantours has probably the best reputation for Central Asia on this forum. And I believe he gets a fair amount of business through here.
In short: I don't think there is much of a risk. The risk of being rejected on the Afghan border is higher. And then it's too late to sort out a guide for China. You'd have to go back through the Stans or fly the bike from somewhere into Pakistan or India.

HOWEVER, just as a $30 safety net, I might ask for a multiple entry visa for Kyrgyzstan. But then again: IF(!) the guide doesn't turn up (and I really don't think so), no-one is going to let you starve to death between 2 borders. There's ALWAYS a way out.
I guess you could always try the border crossing East of the Pamir Highway. Apparently it's only open 2 weeks per year, possibly for local traffic only but who knows...

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Thought I'd copy in a link from an F650 site, about going through Afghanistan. Have a look at page 3 of the thread:

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For now I'm determinant to make a trip to Herat which is some 130 km "deep " in Afghanistan, it could ba a one day visit, no sleeping.
But for anything more I'm not so sure at least not until I get a reply on a email I sent to one reporter who is currently in Kabul for more than one year now.
Also as I got a little more than one month for a entire trip I will do a circular travel and stay in Iran most of the time.
I think that it is better this way because even on this "smaller" rute I should make some 600 km average per day and even that could be torcure.
Besides that Iran has a lot to offer and I't would be a pitty just to drive through.
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