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Edde. Just been checking your site - great photos. I was especially interested in those taken through Siberia. It's making me even more impatient to get there. It's reported to be tiger country, but spotting one would be like winning the lottery, they are so rare!
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Tiger country is the area between Vladivostok and north Korean border...
While waiting for the ferry from Zurubina to Korea, I went down to the North Korean border and did spot some...fantastic...I got a couple pics but they were fuzzy.
Anyways...shipping from Vlad is not worth the hassle, the cost or the risk...the Koreans handle their business.
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I’d like to say a BIG thank you for ALL the contributions on this thread.
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One question I do have for MotoEdde is….. How much was the Africa section of your trip mate? I’m trying to figure out if it’s cheaper to do that than go back to the UK from Dakar - service bike - restock - and then head east?
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Contributions form others is our way of saying thanks to those that contributed to the success of OUR trips...like Frank Warner, Grant Johnson, Eric Haws, etc.!
Africa is a massive continent...West Africa can be done on $10-50 averaging 2-300km per day. Presuming camping en brousse for 5 days out of the week. I made sure I ate well too!
North Africa got expensive because of th compulsory guide in Southern Algeria at 50 Euro a day...not counting that $10-50 per day...gas, food lodging, insurance, etc.
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Tiger country is the area between Vladivostok and north Korean border...
While waiting for the ferry from Zurubina to Korea, I went down to the North Korean border and did spot some...fantastic...I got a couple pics but they were fuzzy....
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Are they THAT easy to find? I've always been under the impression they were as rare as rocking horse s**t. I would like to travel down that way, just to see the North Korean border if nothing else. Not sure how close I could get though.
BTW. I took your advice and contacted the HUBB group in Vladivostok about my car. Got an email back (courtesy of Alex - many thanks) informing me of the "very stupid and long procedure" I would have to go through in order to sell my car. So, I'm having a rethink and will just have to see.
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Are they THAT easy to find? I've always been under the impression they were as rare as rocking horse s**t. I would like to travel down that way, just to see the North Korean border if nothing else. Not sure how close I could get though.
BTW. I took your advice and contacted the HUBB group in Vladivostok about my car. Got an email back (courtesy of Alex - many thanks) informing me of the "very stupid and long procedure" I would have to go through in order to sell my car. So, I'm having a rethink and will just have to see.
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You don't spot the tigers on the road...you have to go in the bush for many kms....ask the the guys at the police checkpoint before heading down to Zurubina about spottings. They'll have the info of where...be careful though...these aren't small cats...
Getting out of Russia without any hiccups/bribes is an accomplishment in and of itself...sell in Mongolia and try North Korea...relationsonships are warming up...the Russian border guys asked the North Koreans guys if they'd let me across...nice of them eh? Answer was no...July 2007.
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You don't spot the tigers on the road...you have to go in the bush for many kms....ask the the guys at the police checkpoint before heading down to Zurubina about spottings. They'll have the info of where...be careful though...these aren't small cats...
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So Shaun, how about we do this year after next (2010)? Early days but you have to start somewhere.
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I’d like to say a BIG thank you for ALL the contributions on this thread. I asked a simple question about cost, but the answers have been so much more useful than I expected, thanks guys. A couple weeks ago I figured I had my route sorted; now I don’t have a clue what way to go!!
I’ve got enough books and maps to keep me reading and researching all year, which is kindda cool coz I’m a hermit now, saving all my money. I’m sure I’ll have a lot more questions as the planning deepens.
One question I do have for MotoEdde is….. How much was the Africa section of your trip mate? I’m trying to figure out if it’s cheaper to do that than go back to the UK from Dakar - service bike - restock - and then head east?
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So Shaun, how about we do this year after next (2010)? Early days but you have to start somewhere.
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Hi Bob
2010? Not sure I can make that year, I’m only saying this because I’m not sure about getting all the cash? Am looking for a new job at the moment that will pay more money. I’ve just got my new bike to do the trip on it’s a TTR600RE. I’ve paid a bit more than I wanted also to turn it into an overlander is going to cost about £1300 + getting my kit ready. With paying a bit more for the bike and all the MODS that takes care of most this year’s savings
Also I’m going to do an 8-week run in Africa down to Dakar before going into Kazak via Caspian Sea through Turkey then Georgia & Azerbaijan as Phil suggested, keeps the visa situation simple
If I get the cash then yes I’d be up for it. But seeing as I’m coming back to no job I’d rather save an extra year and stay away a bit longer… total trip would be 5 or 6 months
How does that sound ?
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Shaun,.. I hope £4,000 will be OK for you (or £35 per day). Unfortunately we've got a little less than that but we've had good fortune this far. (why do I know that these statements will come back to haunt me) We're setting out in April,.. so if we find anything of value to you,.. it'll be posted on our blog. We've simply duplicated things that lots of others have done before us, .. and then lopped off a few corners.
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Good luck Geoff and I will follow your blog with interest.
... and nay to the naysayers. £20 quid a day is a challenge but it will certainly be an adventure.
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Shaun,.. I hope £4,000 will be OK for you (or £35 per day). Unfortunately we've got a little less than that but we've had good fortune this far. (why do I know that these statements will come back to haunt me) We're setting out in April,.. so if we find anything of value to you,.. it'll be posted on our blog. We've simply duplicated things that lots of others have done before us, .. and then lopped off a few corners.
All the best mate, ......... Geoff
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Shaun,.. I hope £4,000 will be OK for you (or £35 per day). Unfortunately we've got a little less than that but we've had good fortune this far. (why do I know that these statements will come back to haunt me) We're setting out in April,.. so if we find anything of value to you,.. it'll be posted on our blog. We've simply duplicated things that lots of others have done before us, .. and then lopped off a few corners.
All the best mate, ......... Geoff
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Hi Geoff
Good luck mate! Hope it goes well, will follow your blog along the way
Best Of British
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