My idea was, that i will need a good Offroad tyre when it comes to Mongolian roads ( can we call them roads? )

Thats why i will use the TKC80 Front and Rear for Mongolia.
Because I am staying there 3 weeks, the Tyre will be worn out after that.
Then i return to my old K60 Scout and drive back.

So i will have 2 pairs of worn out tyres, which we need for this ride

Use mitas E-07's. Simple as that. There is nothing in Mongolia or the stans that you cannot ride with those on. They just last for ever, i got 15,000 miles out of my rear and about 10,000 from the front there last summer. Anything else just will not last on the Mongolia roads.

Dan

I rode from Germany, through Russia, Kaz, Kryg, China, Mongolia all on a set of K60s, not problems whatsoever

I clocked up 18,000km, I just replaced the rear in SEA, the Mongolian steppe chewed some extra life out of the rear tyre on the corrugations.

The front K60 is still on there, it has at least another 10,000km in it although it is showing some cupping, but that does not bother me.

Whatever you do, there is no need to carry a spare front.

Cheers
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Has said before, the K60 scout rear is as good as the tkc80 for the rear and it will definitively last longer. Really no need to carry extra weight in Mongolia, it will only do thing harder ( lost balance...).

No need to carry tyres at all TBH, Contact DeanRUS on here, he has a network of guys throughout Russia and your tyres would be waiting for you.

I did London > Almaty > Novosibirsk on tourances and then switched to TKC80's in Novosibirsk, rode those through Mongolia and then all the way back to Moscow, at which point i switched back to the Tourances, i probably could have made it back to London on the TKC80's, although they would have been slicks by then.

As others have said in Mongolia they key is lightness..

I agree, i want to be at lightweights as possible.

The idea with tires an the way is the best, if we can work this out it would be my first choice

I also know, that i need good profile for mongolia

Hello
I'm at the same point at the moment.
Once I have sorted out how to get my bike fro SEA to Vladivostok I will look for a set of new tyres.
My plan is TCK80 front and a K60 scout rear, instead of the original 130 size, a 140 or even 150.
I've never tried a K60 scout rear but for the longer life I will accept a little bit less traction.
I had a K60 scout on the front and it lasted for ever.
But, the traction, even of as new, was worse than the one of the previous TCK80 at 18000km with no nobbies left.
With the combo TCK80 front and a K60 scout rear, I should make it till the EU.
Then I can find something else if needed.
sushi

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I think I made a decision

I will try to find a place where i can order tires for my bike in Semeypalatinsk ( or a place between there and the Mongolian border, and luckily without Barnaul, because i would like to take a track from Semey to Mongolia which would not lead me through Barnaul )

Has anyone any Idea if there is a way to find a repair or tire shop in this cities where i can order tires?

has anyone any idea about a contact person tho check this there?

Have been in Semey last year, don't think you can get tyres there. Try to send it via DHL. That should work. Otherwise Barnaul if you come via Russia or Almaty if you come through Kazachstan.
In Mongolia try to contact the Oasis Cafe. I'm pretty sure they can organise some tyres there. We'll be in Ulan Bataar in May
TKC is perfect for Mongolia, all the rest you should use the K60. We travelled through whole Tajikistan with them, even in sand it's ok.

Hello
I now use this combination as planned, but I am very disappointed of the K60 Scout on the rear.
Well, for longer mileage I use the 140 K60 Scout one size bigger than original with the solide middle band in the tread.
What's supposed to be an advantage in mileage is in fact a big disadvantage in grip on "nice and easy" gravel.
When the road is hard and the tire can't sink into the dirt it's like a slick, because of the solide middle band in the tread.
In mud when the whole tread can dig into the dirt the tire is as good as a TCK80.
And, the mileage so far is not much better than on my previous TCK80 as a 140.
TO BE CLEAR, this statement is for the 140 "K60 Scout" with the solide middle band in the tread, not the 130 which doesn't have this NOR the normal K60 without the word "Scout".
Just my experience.
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Firstly, a TKC 80 is not a good offroad tyre. Its a road tyre with square grooves cut in it. It has about the exact same off road ability as a K60 - I have ridden a lot on both and I found grip about the same off road, but the K60 is much more directinally stable, especially at high speed off road. Both are OK off road tyres, but both are also less than "good" off road tyres. The TKC80 is a little bit better on wet asphalt than the K60, but it has worse life expectancy. In both tyre models, the Back is better than the front. The front TKC and the front K60 are the weaker links in the pairs.

If you want a tyre that is more off road capable, but still can get you 10,000 km, look for a pair of Mitas E09 Dakars.

If 6000 km is enough range for you, then get proper off road tyres like Michelin Deserts. If you want tyres that just need to provide maximum grip off road in Mongolia for 6000 km or less, then a TKC80 is not what you are looking for. Its a road tyre.

To be honest, a TKC80 or K60 is enough for Mongolia if you are not planning on riding fast and aggressive. If you wanted to keep it simple, I would just do the whole thing on K60s.

If you want maximum grip for 3 weeks in Mongolia, I would go for Michelin Deserts.

3 tyre pics below. TKC80, E09, Desert. Note that the TKC has almost no space at all between the knobs. The E09 has more space between knobs. The Desert has maximum. Raised tread gives grip on asphalt. Not off road. Its the volume of the gaps between the raised tread that gives you off road grip. A TKC has almost no volume between the blocks and doesnt give good off road grip.

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