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No point in 'calibrating' the flow rate adjustor ..
On the old bike I just marked the needle valve head so when pointed to the rear it was about right .. screw in for less, out for more .. screw in all the way for off.
---- IIRC someone used a human drip feed adjustor as their flow rate adjustor .. think it was a wedge against the tubing .. humm a small scew clamp agains the tubing would work .. may not shut it all off and may be non linear but who cares?
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suggestion
to make it automaticaly shut off you could use a injector from a car,
these are nothing more than a tube with a naturaly closing thingy, when you put tension (12 volt) on it, it will open.
so if you connect it to the ignition powersupply line, it will allow flow. if you stop driving and remove the key it will stop.
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to make it automaticaly shut off you could use a injector from a car,
these are nothing more than a tube with a naturaly closing thingy, when you put tension (12 volt) on it, it will open.
so if you connect it to the ignition powersupply line, it will allow flow. if you stop driving and remove the key it will stop.
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Hiya, yep, i know about the injector way to do things, but I was trying to KISS it.... Keep It Simple, Stupid.
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hi guys i feel a bit stupid asking this question but here it comes? why are u going through all this hassle for lubrication? is it not easier to keep a can of lubricating oil and use it whenit is needed? i am just asking since i am relatively new to long distance riding and i normaly use my bike to commute from home to work etc not long distance sine i live on a small island. planning for a long distance trip next year though. so should i think about something similar or just stick to the normal lubrication ways?
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ozzee......its like this
The short answer: cos its fun messin with bikes!
the easy answer is......Because some company makes something that does this for a lot of money and I wanted to make one cheap.
the complicated longer answer is:Because some company makes something that does this for a lot of money and I wanted to make one cheap AND I cant be bothered to lube every day, wanted to find a system that did it for me cos im basically lazy as well as no money.
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Way to go
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hi guys i feel a bit stupid asking this question but here it comes? why are u going through all this hassle for lubrication? is it not easier to keep a can of lubricating oil and use it whenit is needed? i am just asking since i am relatively new to long distance riding and i normaly use my bike to commute from home to work etc not long distance sine i live on a small island. planning for a long distance trip next year though. so should i think about something similar or just stick to the normal lubrication ways?
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Yep, spot on!
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Hi ozzee , if you are only doing short runs then it doesn't really matter whether you have an automatic oiler or you just spray on oil or use a paint brush or whatever .
But on a long run the auto oiler will be better because it drops oil onto the chain as you ride , thus the chain is being oiled when it actually needs lubrication .Centrifugal action also spreads the oil over the chain and sprocket for you and helps prevent waste because you use less oil .
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hi guys i feel a bit stupid asking this question but here it comes? why are u going through all this hassle for lubrication? is it not easier to keep a can of lubricating oil and use it whenit is needed? i am just asking since i am relatively new to long distance riding and i normaly use my bike to commute from home to work etc not long distance sine i live on a small island. planning for a long distance trip next year though. so should i think about something similar or just stick to the normal lubrication ways?
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@ Martynbiker
no need to change the font size.. . beeing an electrical engineer this was the kiss methode.
the none kiss methode is a discription of the electrical circuit how to make the injector limit the oil flow and increasing it while the speed increases...
but others reading it might not intantly understand the injector trick.
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yes please! im game for a go at that
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the none kiss methode is a discription of the electrical circuit how to make the injector limit the oil flow and increasing it while the speed increases...
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any chance of a "how to" posting on that one then? sounds like fun!
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hi guys i feel a bit stupid asking this question but here it comes? why are u going through all this hassle for lubrication? is it not easier to keep a can of lubricating oil and use it whenit is needed? i am just asking since i am relatively new to long distance riding and i normaly use my bike to commute from home to work etc not long distance sine i live on a small island. planning for a long distance trip next year though. so should i think about something similar or just stick to the normal lubrication ways?
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Dunno what all the fuss is about either, All my old Triumphs had a chain oiler built in, they vented crankcase oil via a timed outlet off teh inlet camshaft to spray the chain as it went over the gearbox sprocket. Spare oil would tend to run down the engine casing which often mislead ill informed people to think their bike was leaking oil. My BMW does not need one
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All my old Triumphs had a chain oiler built in, Spare oil would tend to run down the engine casing which often mislead ill informed people to think their bike was leaking oil.
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I had T140V that had a total loss lubrication system too.......
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The short answer: cos its fun messin with bikes!
the easy answer is......Because some company makes something that does this for a lot of money and I wanted to make one cheap.
the complicated longer answer is:Because some company makes something that does this for a lot of money and I wanted to make one cheap AND I cant be bothered to lube every day, wanted to find a system that did it for me cos im basically lazy as well as no money.
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same here .... LAZY/NO MONEY
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any chance of a "how to" posting on that one then? sounds like fun!
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Injectors anit cheap .. well not cheap enough for me to use them there..
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cheap as chips mate!
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Injectors anit cheap .. well not cheap enough for me to use them there..
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what you need is an injector from an XR3 or something similar, the scrap yards are full of them! i doubt they would charge you more than a couple of s for one, or go to a BOSCH Fuel Injection Centre, tell them what you are doing and ask for an old injector that doesn't spray correctly, what you want is a worn one, not a clogged one.( remember we want it to drip Oil, not atomise fuel) and they will probably let you have as many as you want out of the bin.
Happy Huntin'
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i'm sorry that i made you walk away from you kiss believe
and i don't want to look like a geek.
so that is not going to happen anytime soon..but it would be the easy on a bmw with injection once you have taped into the digital system, just to bad they don't need it.
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