do i need a carnet to travel rtw on a motorbike less than £1000?

[will-dakar]

Hi all,
At the moment i live in Scotland and have a f650gs Dakar.
Myself and my girlfriend are moving to New Zealand next year. she will fly but I want ride.

I am no stranger to big rides, i do 7000-9000 single trips every year, but looking at the costs of carnet is way to high, even on a wrecked old Dakar.

So, i was thinking can i ride there without a carnet on a motorbike that's worth less than £1000? i.e C90, Honda MTX 125, with i have access too already. Am i right in thinking this?

Also how do they work out how much its worth anyway? my Dakar has nearly 90,000 on it, all fairings damaged, its been very VERY well used, so i wouldn't say i could sell her for more than £1000 anyway.

Many thanks

[*Touring Ted*]

It doesn't matter if your bike is worth £25. If you go to a country which demands a vehicle carnet, you will need the document.

IF you need a carnet or not ???? Well that depends on where you're going !

[outdooredjim]

my understanding is ,carnet has a minimum of £1000.
im just looking at it now, i contacted ed march. it seams a carnet covers or can cover many countierys , but you will have to look and see what the highest % is, ie iran is high at 500 % , so as long as your countries are not higher than you % you have paid, you are ok. i think ! hope this halps people ,as maths di my head in ! lol

[*Touring Ted*]

I didn't know about the £1000 rule.

I'd love to see that conveyed to an Egypian or Iranian Customs guy..

How do you prove that your bike is worth less than a £1000 ???

Especially in a foreign land, in a strange language, to a guy who only knows how to stamp one page of a document whilst there is a 500 strong que behind you bustling to get their papers signed too !!

[NearlyHomelessNick]

Been looking into this myself, countries that require a carnet must be presented with one.


Bürgschaftshöhe für alle Fahrzeuge, die
nicht unter die Punkte 2 oder 3 fallen:
bis zu einem Zeitwert des Fahrzeuges von € 15.000 =
€ 1.500
bis zu einem Zeitwert des Fahrzeuges von
€ 25.000 =
€ 2.500
bis zu einem Zeitwert des Fahrzeuges von € 50.000 =
€ 5.000
bis zu einem Zeitwert des Fahrzeuges von € 75.000 =
€ 7.500

This is for German residents you'll have to hunt for the RAC one, but a Carnet will cost me just under €200....the big sum is a deposit that I hope will be refunded on return of the Carnet. A vehicle worth "up to €15000" will need a deposit of €1500
Exceptions are Egypt India Iran Pakistan South African Nations where it's double,

And you'll need one for NZ

[kim]

Originally Posted by NearlyHomelessNick

Been looking into this myself, countries that require a carnet must be presented with one.


This is for German residents you'll have to hunt for the RAC one, but a Carnet will cost me just under €200....the big sum is a deposit that I hope will be refunded on return of the Carnet. A vehicle worth "up to €15000" will need a deposit of €1500
Exceptions are Egypt India Iran Pakistan South African Nations where it's double,

And you'll need one for NZ

Your lucky, the RAC charge much more.

See this thread http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-uk-rac-68191

I might even look into importing my bike to Germany...

[kim]

I think there has been some confusion here, you still need a Carnet if your vehicle is under £1000, it's just their minimum value for working out the fee.

From the RAC website

"Vehicle value: £1,000 (this is the minimum vehicle value we can accept) E.g. If the vehicle is valued at £500 your quotation will be based on £1,000."

For example if you have a bike worth £500 and want to drive to New Zealand.

£500 = £1000

£1000 x 500% = £5000, 10% of which is £500 (£250 refundable)
Tax (6%) £30 (£30 refundable)
Deposit to RAC £350 (£350 refundable)
Carney Cost £200

So total up front cost = £1080
Refunded £630
Total cost £450

[*Touring Ted*]

Originally Posted by kim

I think there has been some confusion here, you still need a Carnet if your vehicle is under £1000, it's just their minimum value for working out the fee.

From the RAC website

"Vehicle value: £1,000 (this is the minimum vehicle value we can accept) E.g. If the vehicle is valued at £500 your quotation will be based on £1,000."

For example if you have a bike worth £500 and want to drive to New Zealand.

£500 = £1000

£1000 x 500% = £5000, 10% of which is £500 (£250 refundable)
Tax (6%) £30 (£30 refundable)
Deposit to RAC £350 (£350 refundable)
Carney Cost £200

So total up front cost = £1080
Refunded £630
Total cost £450

Why is your deposit only £350 for a carnet of of £5000 ?? Is it insured, deposited or bank guaranteed ???

I had to either lay down the whole carnet value in cash deposit, pay a premium for an insurance policy on the amount or have a bank guarantee for the amount.


Cheers, Ted