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Thanks for your insight !

1. I was considering either going through Myanmar if it became possible closer to the time, or otherwise shipping the bike from India to Thailand or Malaysia for about 1000$ and continuing on from there.

2. I found this website that seems to offer a cdp just for Iran as a cheaper alternative to getting one in Europe: https://irantourismcenter.com/drive-...r%20motorbikes.

3. For shipping from Indonesia to Australia I’ve accounted for about 1000$ by sea.

4. Once I get to Australia the plan is to settle out there and work for at least a year on a working holiday visa. The plan would be to import the bike permanently.

5. Travelling light with soft luggage will be my objective, a bit like Nathan Millward on his postie bike. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lYWbKOxrPV4

The CF Moto is definitely a good choice, but I’m relying on a 1500$ bike that I could abandon if things went wrong
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AnTyx's advice is good in my book. Size of bike is very much a personal preference. Big bikes are better on road tours, small bikes better on dirt. There's no reason you shouldn't ride to Aus on a small bike as long as you don't thrash it all the way and plan your luggage carefully.

Be wary of cheap bikes. As much as you may feel it would allow you to walk away, the authorities take a dim view of people who leave bikes in their country (permanent import), it also negates the CDP (and I think you'll struggle to do the journey without one). Lastly old cheap bikes may let you down on the road, and the trip is enough of a challenge without throwing a PITA heap of junk that you can't get spares for into the mix.
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Cheers for your reply, I’m definitely onboard with what you’re saying.
The cdp is at least 4k€ in France.. so it’s something I’ve just got to try and get around I suppose..

There’s a ‘new’ youtuber called Lost and Savage currently touring Afghanistan on a Kawa W650. He replied to one of my comments saying he only uses temporary import permits for his bike, which is why I’m kind of hopeful it could work out.

https://youtube.com/@lostandsavage?si=OJR4RzxA8c7RkdiK


Regarding bikes, I’m looking at 2nd hand reliable models like the dr650 which should survive the trip and be relatively easy to repair if needed.

Leaving the bike somewhere would really be a last resort option

Taking my time though before pulling the trigger

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There’s a ‘new’ youtuber called Lost and Savage currently touring Afghanistan on a Kawa W650. He replied to one of my comments saying he only uses temporary import permits for his bike, which is why I’m kind of hopeful it could work out.
Not every country requires a CDP, many issue a FOC TIP at the border. But if you rock up to a CDP country without one, you won't get in. You're right to do your homework, the trip is enough adventure without adding in PITA events. Work out your route, look at the CDP and visa policies of every country you expect to pass through, make sure they're open to visitors and go from there.
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2. I found this website that seems to offer a cdp just for Iran as a cheaper alternative to getting one in Europe: https://irantourismcenter.com/drive-...r%20motorbikes.
That is about twice as expensive as the issuing fee of a CDP from ADAC. (There is also a deposit, but you get that back when you complete the trip and close out the carnet.) https://www.adac.de/reise-freizeit/r...sages-english/
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A CdP is mandatory for Iran, Pakistan, India and China. Myanmar is closed. Might be worth looking at the map again.
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A CdP is mandatory for Iran, Pakistan, India and China. Myanmar is closed. Might be worth looking at the map again.
Cdp mandatory for China? Is that something new?
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I'm not even going to consider legality, paperwork etc.

But from the viewpoint of "What bike would I enjoy riding on that trip".

I think I'd take the new Suzuki 800DE. Or the new Transalp 750
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"...shipping from Indonesia to Australia I’ve accounted for about 1000$ by sea..."

I doubt this will be enough. We already paid more in 2019 with 3 motorcycles from East Timor to Darwin. Better count with 2000$ and you might be fine.
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