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$50? That depends on the k's you're doing, doesn't it? That's easily worked out. But on average 50 seems tight on the face of it. Sounds like greasy burgers meals and bread and biscuits for breaky and lunch to me.

To the OP. Be careful accepting advice on costs as truths. I've taken prices of staying overnight on face value before, but it worked out much more. I like to rough camp myself, but sometimes it's difficult or you get called in by the shower. My suggestion is to look at web searches for fleabag place prices on the web, check the date and don't pick the average, but the conservative third. Cabins and camp grounds are good too. For us it's all about a shower and a quick undy wash. Or s....

Daily consumables, both for man and machine, are easily identified and costed. The incidentals are the trick. That's what contingencies are for.
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If you're tenting and cooking your own meals, fuel will be your largest expense. On the other hand, if you want to stay in pricier hotels and take all your meals in restaurants, well, there goes your budget. Of course, all this depends a lot on where you are riding. For example, India is a lot cheaper than western Europe...
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50$ per day ! That make sense while you are on road
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Hi,

Calculate the Visa costs, the petrol depending on how fare your going to ride, a few euros for food every day and the flights. Then double this costs just to be shure and be happy if you only used a quarter of it, when your back home again. There is no need to use hotels once you own a tent (there are no hotels in Congo anyway) so riding around africa for two years is possible for as little as 5000 Euro. This is less then 10 Dollars per day:

http://afrikamotorrad.de/?report=en_transafrika

I did not need more for Southamerica and Southeast Asia as well:

http://motorradtouren-suedamerika.de...en_suedamerika
http://schoene-motorradreisen.de/?re...ailand_bangkok

Its a myth that you need to win the lottery to be able to travel. Life on third world countrys can be cheaper then to stay at home. Only if your in a hurry and have to travel 1000 km per day as if the police is chacing you, you might need more for petrol.
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Didn't need more in South America? No in Argentina or Chile? What were you eating and where were you showering? I guess you could couch surf too.
Shipping to SA is extortionate. And Arg and Ch are first world prices.

Don't forget the prices neither ;-)
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True shiping bikes allways makes trips more expensive thats why i prefere to buy or rent bikes at the continents i want to explore. Drinking alcohol is bad for your health
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Here i just found a great page wich describes how to deal with money: Meet Mr. Money Mustache
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It's simple. Stop buying shit. Or you could say, give up certain creature comforts as well. Half full or half empty. It's all down to you.
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I worked out 150USD per day inc fuel should be fine, so 9,000USD over the 2 month journey...sleeping in hotel/hostel/motel 80% of the time, only camping in Mongolia.
Hi James:

Sounds like you are planning to do the trip in a vehicle (something that has 4 wheels). My experience is with motorcycles, hence I can't give you any advice about fuel and vehicle maintenance costs.

I budget €100 a day for everything except fuel, tolls, and motorcycle maintenance (I get the maintenance done before I leave on a trip... I don't like having to do any maintenance when on the road).

I stay in hotels (typically 3 star), and I don't drink alcohol. €100 a day is sometimes too much, for example, at the moment I am in Skopje, Macedonia, staying in a first-class hotel that costs €58 a night. Food might be another €15 a day. But, in Western Europe, sometimes the hotels cost €80 a night or more, and food more than €20 a day. All in all, though €100 a day seems to average out OK month after month.

It should be fairly easy for you to budget fuel and vehicle maintenance costs (tires, oil changes, etc.) before you leave... you know what kind of mileage your vehicle gets, and it is easy enough to determine fuel prices in each country via Google. You can also get a rough idea of nightly accommodation costs by looking at TripAdvisor. Be careful, though, not to underestimate accommodation costs. The lower range of hotels and guest houses might only cost €30 or €40 a night, but if you find that the place has bedbugs, and neighborhood security is such that your vehicle might be sitting on concrete blocks the next morning, you're not going to be staying there.

Also, don't forget that you will need to set aside a contingency fund in case you have any mechanical breakdowns along the way.

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Thanks for the great replies everyone.

Yes indeed it is a four wheel drive vehicle. I'm not sure how bad I'm expecting bad hotels to be, I stayed in some pretty rough places in Romania before but nothing I would say was worse than camping. I might even work out a way of removing the rear seats of the 4x4 and putting a bed in there somehow but how much time do I want to spend in that car.

The accommodation costs could easily spiral out of control I think, I'm going through the old Russian states and then into Russia, and then Mongolia. It seems to be that the cheap hotels really are quite cheap and the not so cheap hotels really are not so cheap at all. Seems to be no middle ground, I'm thinking to budget big time for accommodation and hope that when I make it home I've got some left over money that I can put into another adventure.

Really appreciate your views and thoughts, thanks to everyone to replied.
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