3Likes
-
1
Post By pecha72
-
1
Post By tjheuvel
-
1
Post By pecha72
|
16 Jan 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: India
Posts: 182
|
|
Rtw 2017
Hello all!
I am planning a RTW from ist april 2017 thru 365 days or some. my route is as below:
India to Vlad/Russia to Moscow : april ( Is it Cold/undoable in Russia?)
Europe in may-june-july
North Am in aug-sept-oct
South am in Nov
Ocean transport to Australia dec (20 days abouts)
Australia in dec-Jan
Bali to India jan-feb-march
End
Some questions and thoughts for help from all of you:
Russia: will it be unbearable cold from 10am thru 4pm (my estimated riding day)
i am planning a top of 50,000km as i cant afford more than that.( i cant afford that as well/but i dont know that yet!)
where will the weather be against me.
i am planning couchsurfing and hostel-dorm mix of overnights. is this good?
I am as of now going 1Up/alone and shall hopefully meetup with riders along the way. (does that really happen)
Is the carnet respected in all places/or is there still a 'Fixer' amount?
As of now i have excluded China as its extremely expensive with a local guide etc. Though i keep hearing of changing rules/any ideas?
I am planning crossing the atlantic and pacific on container ships/any ideas?
I shall be riding a Royal Enfield 500cc!
i have been planning this for over a year and am as of now ready to roll in april 2017. so do pour advise.
my best wishes to all
FuseBox
(thats my call sign)
|
26 Jan 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: India
Posts: 182
|
|
Forgot to add: looking for Route Partners along the way.
aditya
|
27 Jan 2016
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 1,731
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by aditya raj kapoor
India to Vlad/Russia to Moscow : april ( Is it Cold/undoable in Russia?)
........
I am planning crossing the atlantic and pacific on container ships/any ideas?
|
I live on about 60 North latitude, and over here (southern Finland) proper riding season usually gets underway in April, sometimes early April, sometimes late April, it depends on the year. BUT, this is not far from the Atlantic, and the Gulf-stream, and its extensions make this area warmer, than it would otherwise be. Most of Siberia will not have such luxury, and during winter, it is among the coldest places on this planet. March, I would say, would definitely still be too cold to ride west from Vladivostok. April, it will fully depend on your luck. Also note, that if there is a lot of snow, it may make wintry road conditions last a long time, even though temperatures might already be warmer. The sun melts the snow in the daytime, it turns to water, which flows on the road, and if nights are still below freezing, the road will be icy. If you have no experience about riding in very cold/possibly wintry conditions (or do you?), I really do not think that is the right place to start getting such experience. Could be a wise idea to plan doing this a little later in spring, when it should be a little warmer.
Here is for example the climate chart for Chita, in eastern Russia and should be on your route or close:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chita,...y_Krai#Climate
......
Crossing the oceans on container ships is very rare these days, you can´t just go and ask to work on a ship to pay for your transport, it has all become much more complicated than it perhaps was back in the Seventies, for example. And there are extremely few international ferry routes to be found outside Europe. Now, by far the most common way to get across an ocean is, you put the bike forward as freight – by air or by sea), and get flights for yourself to go meet the bike at the other end. Shipping the motorcycle is always some sort of pain in the *ss even when pretty much everything goes to the plan. And it costs money. But it can be done.
Good luck, and if you´re planning to visit Finland, do get in touch!
|
27 Jan 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: India
Posts: 182
|
|
Wow....Pecha....thnx for the details and opinion. Most valuable. Vlad will be 15th april onwards and hopefully a warming route as spring summers. I have done ladakh black ice riding and know the risks. Keeping a 45 day window for vlad to moscow or st Petersburg. Container freight..I have looked at as a paid ticket and not work onboard. All such freight ships keep rooms and the total cost is maybe 20% more than air options...so it is to be viewed as a 40 day full board ocean holiday..finland: shall come as I want to see Scandinavia...
aditya
|
27 Jan 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: India
Posts: 182
|
|
Sea freight and air passenger crossing is also the best cost effective option. Looking at all....
aditya
|
27 Jan 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: India
Posts: 182
|
|
Will be tracking russian route for weather n other elements from april this year so I have information. Shall be doing it Ist April 2017 onwards for 365 days. Ciao!
aditya
|
27 Jan 2016
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 20
|
|
Just wanted to say that this looks like a really amazing trip! Hope the enfield holds up
|
27 Jan 2016
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 1,731
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by aditya raj kapoor
Sea freight and air passenger crossing is also the best cost effective option. Looking at all....
|
Sea freight may not always be the best, or even the most cost effective option. Especially on any shorter routes (eastern US to western Europe is not a very long route, for example), airfreight has some clear advantages, like being MUCH quicker, and just generally better suited for handling such small shipment as one MC. Big seaports can be a real pain, as they are made to handle enormous volumes of freight. Costs at the receiving end have brought bitter surprises for many, especially when sending by sea. Also if there is a delay, by air it should most likely mean a few hours or a few days maximum. By sea, delays are easily counted in weeks. And then you wait somewhere to be able to continue your trip, that will cost something, too.
I sent my MC by sea from Australia to Finland, and it got delayed for 3 weeks (so it ended up taking just about two months!)... was not a big problem, as my trip was already finished, but in the middle of the trip, would have been a different story. It was quite cheap though.
|
27 Jan 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: India
Posts: 182
|
|
Hmmmm, yes didnt think of that...will monitor the sea freight plan..if I am looking at it...thnx
aditya
|
27 Jan 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: India
Posts: 182
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjheuvel
Just wanted to say that this looks like a really amazing trip! Hope the enfield holds up
|
I hope so too....
aditya
|
31 Jan 2016
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: India
Posts: 182
|
|
I am still monitoring container vessels that take bike freight as well..so that the bike n I are on the same ship. All options are open ....
'Bike on a Hike'. Available at WWW.Amazon.com
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|