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sore fuel price in Germany.. still rising..
well yes we all know that 2/3 of the fuel price is greedy TAX and the biggest income of any Gov... and so on...
Any way in the last few years there are many of us who like to "just cross" Germany in transit as a country in the middle of Europe to get to there destinations a bit more far east, like Russia, the Baltic's and south....
Well suffering the soaring fuel price my self living in this high priced region I was thinking that many of you out there don't want to spend all there cash even before hand of getting east or south just to make the Gov... any richer.....
Now there is a web page:
gasoline-germany.com - Price fixing and petrol price forecast for Germany = in English (the Spanish page is: gasoline-germany.com - Fijación y proyección de los precios de gasolina ), that keeps an hourly update of all fuel price changes in Germany in any region and big cities, even with maps where it is cheapest to fill up and if you click around you can find a price by cities as well.... the best thing is, that you can even find the average price in other European countries and can add your own price experiences sorted by brand, supplier and price your self to get the average levelled up.
To make your trip planing more effectively, this page shows the map hole of Germany, where it is cheapest to travel: Benzinpreis-Karten Deutschland
click on one of the regional countries (Bundesland) you find a more detailed map and a closer look where to find the cheapest area to top up your tank.
To get a more exact price development lock up the Cities, and avoid riding the "Autobahn" the motorways, the fuel is most expensive there.
Ohh yes.. just to mention it, the greed can be topped.... beware speeding...
from next year on the fines will double... (reasons are empty pockets in the communities) the good thing is the German police has static speed cameras that only makes nice pictures from the front of you and your bike....  you are well come to show off a finger of your new bike gloves..... any way they plan to buy more of this laser-hand-held cameras.... with hiding green cops in the hedges..... (day light robbery, where you have to pay right away) they are not making speed control around schools or dangers areas, they are around the open and trapping hotspots where they know they can cash in.
so be aware on your way, spare your money for the more important thinks in live....
have a save and nice journey.....
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Thanks for the links.
At the time of my post, the average is 1,498 €, which is about £1.21 at the 1.24 euro's to the UK pound that most travel agents are offering.
This is for my area...
Search Results for dh5 - PetrolPrices.com
...which makes Germany expensive in comparison for UK travellers, but I think the poor exchange rate is accounting for much of it.
When I was last there in September '07, it was about 1.38 to 1.41 euro's per litre, maybe a little more in Holland, which was a little cheaper than we were paying at that time, but calculated at a 1.4:1 exchange rate.
The so-called experts reckon we'll be paying £1.50 (or 1.86 euro's) per litre by the end of 2008.
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Come to the Americas its cheaper here.
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Thanks for that, spooky. Interesting, but not much we can do about it, is there?
Will be over there in 3 - 4 weeks time, so will just have to pay up. The Pan has a 28l tank, so better start putting the Pennies away up for a full tank.
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Depends how you look at it, I realise you are trying to be helpful so dont take this as a criticism.
The price of fuel is not rising. It is money getting cheaper. crude oil is still 10 barrels to the ounce of gold, same as it was 8 years ago. Hopefully by next year I will have a lean burn Enfield at 80 mpg. When fuel is £5+ euro a litre I will swap out the motor for a diesel and then i will be getting 160 mpg. Better still it will run on home grown sunflower oil (mostly).
Meanwhile I continue to plant a mixed wood of trees for coppicing for firewood  Close to self sufficient in that already
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Depends how you look at it, I realise you are trying to be helpful so dont take this as a criticism.
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no probs.....
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The price of fuel is not rising. It is money getting cheaper. crude oil is still 10 barrels to the ounce of gold, same as it was 8 years ago.
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well the oil industries and the Gov.. doesn't give a donkey for that... there share holder and greed counting there.....
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well the food is getting more expensive than... you can see that right today... burning wheat and growing oil seeds instead for more profit for making bio-fuel is the result there... (all around Berlin they grow oil not food this days) at the end it's easier and cheaper for the oil giants to burn food rather than drilling deeper for new oil source which cost a lot more and was missed out in the past. that way oil prizes remains high and GM-food as well regarding less amount of food acre.... the monopole all in one hand..... for 2009 the German Gov... decided to mix at least 10% BIO-fuel in to mineral-fuel and don't give a toss if older engines packing up.... (buy a new one... is there answer, keeps the economy running)
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Yes... to discover the old way and doing things like that is floating around my head... we may all have to get use to it again..... may rather faster than later.... and if we are not getting use to remember the crafts of the past we gone a be in big trouble if the time comes........
doing bike trips as we know it now, may have to be done on horse back soon.... (again) well enjoy riding bikes as long it's possible........
Now sorry if this is getting to close to political opinion's, I normally try to avoid it here on HUBB....
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. Better still it will run on home grown sunflower oil (mostly).
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As long as you ride within range of that supply of sunflower oil.
Guess you have to stop calling yourself a traveler then.... commuter might fit better.
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Come to the Americas its cheaper here. 
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Been there, done that.... ahhhh 2.43USD/Gal..... that was nice.
Even 4.50USD in Big Sur was ok :-)
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