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Storing motorbike in Mongolia
Hi,
I was planning my trip from Europe through Mongolia and on to China, Veitnam, Thailand and India.
However I came across the fact I needed an special permit and guide for China which I can not afford.
So I was thinking of leaving my motorbike in Mongolia in a storage type unit and heading on to visit China by foot/public transport.
Does anyone know where I could leave my motorcycle safely for 2-3 months in Mongolia?
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Bike storage Mongolia
Hi Richard,
I (Aussie) am married to a Mongol, could ask my wife's family if they know of any leads where you could store your bike in UB. May work, not sure, I will give it a go!
Stewie 
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Hey thank-you, no rush i am planning way a head of myself 
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Hi Richard,
From what I understand as of this year you will not be able to leave your bike in Mongolia, I was hoping to do the same but was told the only place that allows it is Kygyzstan.
You could consider joining one of the groups that are teaming up to cross China to share the cost of the guide, I am joining this one although as a passenger in WickyChicky's, aka Jens and Helen's Landcruiser.
If you do consider this do it quickly as a complete list of participents has to be submitted several weeks before it sets off into China.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...na-tibet-70042
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Where did the info come from?
Mark,
who gave you this information about bike storage in Mongolia, and why from this year?
From living, working in Mongolia and being married there, decision making is very fluid and it depends on the individual on how they feel on the day. Often, one official will say no, and the another will say yes. So I am interested to know, where did you gather your info from, since you probably do not understand the Mongol language, I will check it out with my wife's family in UB. Chances are you might be right, but lets make certain for Richard.
Cheers,
Stewie
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To be quite honest leaving the motorcycle in Kazakhstan would also do the job. Do you know anywhere I could place it there?
I have read about people doing that but I would have to pass through China twice to get home again 
I will either leave it in Mongolia or Kazakhstan which ever is possible and if not head back to through Eastern Europe. I would rather not go back that way as I have a year to travel 
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Mark,
who gave you this information about bike storage in Mongolia, and why from this year?
From living, working in Mongolia and being married there, decision making is very fluid and it depends on the individual on how they feel on the day. Often, one official will say no, and the another will say yes. So I am interested to know, where did you gather your info from, since you probably do not understand the Mongol language, I will check it out with my wife's family in UB. Chances are you might be right, but lets make certain for Richard.
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I believe Mark is correct regarding the leaving of a bike. When you exit the bike must also exit. In 2011 the law was changed and I was informed of that requirement at the Tsanganuur crossing. In UB, I was told that if the bike was inspected and a deposit fee was paid it could be done but . . . I was also told that there was a trajectory of preventing this in the future, no matter what.
Ultimately, when you left the bike then (2011) you could depart as a stamp was entered in your Passport and you had necessary paperwork. Upon returning when you departed Mongolia you'd be refunded your deposit, though in Mongolia currency.
It's definitely true that you can leave the bike in Kyrgyzstan. You might be able to pull it off at the airport. A traveler I KNOW was required to speak with a customs official at the airport but was ultimately waved through.
YMMV.
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I've got my Trannie stored in UB since last summer. I was asked by the "storer" to officially import it into Mongolia (or at least pay the import tax).
Had a (not) fun day of farting about at customs in UB sorting it. 23% of an alleged value 600 bucks was affordable. But it's only for a year though. I fly back in 5 weeks to continue my trip around Siberia.
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Still waiting on reply
Richard, still waiting on a reply from my Mongol government contact.
There is a strong possibility the man who uses the great Mongol leader's name is every bit correct.
By the way, the great leaders name known to my wife's people is Gingghis not Genghus (Genghus was termed by the British, along with the spelling Bator), therefore, Ulaan Bator is spelt Ulaan Baatar. If this person knew how entrench Gingghis is to the Mongol's psyche he would change his title out of respect.
A hint, ever wanted to get half killed by a Mongol, just walk into a real Mongol pub an state, "Gingghis is shit", and see how long you last. This name is everything to Mongolian culture, stop prostituting his name like an American burger.
cheers Stewie
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Hello Stewie,
thank you very much for explaining here a bit about Mongolian culture, I would say most of us here on the HUBB did not know.
When I visited Mongolia in the year 2000, I could see Dschingis - Tschingis or Gingghis or Genghus - products everywhere. I dont speak any Mongolian, but I remember Dschingis wodka, the  tent of a German/Mongolian brewery in UB called Tschingis Kaahn tent and some dishes in tourist restaurants called Gingghis ....
I understand the importance of having an idol for every culture ... just hope that the Americans of the next generations are not using George W. or Obama ....
Sad to read that you cant store your bike anymore in Mongolia for as long as you like.
All the best
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Sad to read that you cant store your bike anymore in Mongolia for as long as you like.
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I was told it's because of all the Mongol Rally cars and the other tourists who drive one way and just use Mongolia as a scrap yard for their abandoned cars.
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Originally Posted by Genghis9021
I believe Mark is correct regarding the leaving of a bike. When you exit the bike must also exit. In 2011 the law was changed and I was informed of that requirement at the Tsanganuur crossing. In UB, I was told that if the bike was inspected and a deposit fee was paid it could be done but . . . I was also told that there was a trajectory of preventing this in the future, no matter what.
Ultimately, when you left the bike then (2011) you could depart as a stamp was entered in your Passport and you had necessary paperwork. Upon returning when you departed Mongolia you'd be refunded your deposit, though in Mongolia currency.
It's definitely true that you can leave the bike in Kyrgyzstan. You might be able to pull it off at the airport. A traveler I KNOW was required to speak with a customs official at the airport but was ultimately waved through.
YMMV.
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Last August when I left at UB airport there was no customs desk, hence nobody was available to speak to me or me to them, had I wanted to. There's nothing in my passport to say my bike is in Mongolia, nor did the immigration officer who stamped my visa out ask anything (why would he, he's immigration, not customs).
PS. Just re-read your post Kurt: Sorry, I think you're talking about Kyrgyzstan.  My info is about Mongolia. 
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Last August when I left at UB airport there was no customs desk, hence nobody was available to speak to me or me to them, had I wanted to. There's nothing in my passport to say my bike is in Mongolia, nor did the immigration officer who stamped my visa out ask anything (why would he, he's immigration, not customs).
PS. Just re-read your post Kurt: Sorry, I think you're talking about Kyrgyzstan. My info is about Mongolia. |
Chris - if you enter via Tsaaganuur . . . it's a given you were in a vehicle. For foreigners . . . that's a key to take a 2nd look. Also, the fellah I know who left departed mid-October, it was very cold and there was snow on the ground and VERY few folks of european stock, apparently. That probably explains, at least partly, his passport's receiving extra scrutiny.
Too bad folks (european stock !) are treating Mongolia as their own Everest Base Camp (aka "junk yard").
BTW, I'll be in UB on 10 Oct early AM. But I have a little work to do on the bike . . .
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I was told it's because of all the Mongol Rally cars and the other tourists who drive one way and just use Mongolia as a scrap yard for their abandoned cars.
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Perhaps they could sell them to the Chinese who could then recycle them as poor quality, pointless crap and sell them back to us completeing the circle of life!
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Chris - if you enter via Tsaaganuur . . . it's a given you were in a vehicle. For foreigners . . . that's a key to take a 2nd look. Also, the fellah I know who left departed mid-October, it was very cold and there was snow on the ground and VERY few folks of european stock, apparently. That probably explains, at least partly, his passport's receiving extra scrutiny.
Too bad folks (european stock !) are treating Mongolia as their own Everest Base Camp (aka "junk yard").
BTW, I'll be in UB on 10 Oct early AM. But I have a little work to do on the bike . . .
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Yeh, there we lots of honkys passing through UB airport at the end of August last year so I blended in real well.
Should the need arise to explain away the car symbol from a Tsaaganuur entry in one's passport, one could theoretically say one was a passenger in a car/bus/truck.
I'm arriving UB 7th July, hoping to be in Russia by 9th or 10th. Maybe back in town to freight bike home from the Oasis in late August, or not, if I ride it the extra 3000 miles to Bishkek to park it there ready for a summer 2014 trip.
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