Don't know if I'll be booed off the stage here for driving a scooter, but I'm just an opportunist. I got my first dirt bike when I was 11, been riding whatever I could get my hands on ever since. Having lived in Israel for the last 3 years, I didn't have my own transportation the last couple months back in the states--and then a family friend gave me an old scooter he had. (He and my uncle ride their harleys together regularly).




It's a 125cc Yamaha Riva, 2001 (last year produced). I rode it the 350 miles back home on back highways, and it died three days later. He had neglected to tell me that he had never changed the oil on it. Should have known...

So compression went bad, but I've decided to get the engine rebuilt because I enjoyed the ride. Getting the cylinders bored out to fix compression, and to add some horsepower. The mechanic is a great guy, and it looks like the engine will be better of than when it was new. It needs new bearings on the steering and new tires badly, will do those too.

I've been planning a trip to South America for a long time now, but since I have the scooter, I got infected with this thought of driving it down instead of flying down. I live in Texas, so Mexico isn't far away. I've spent the last two weeks reading everything I possibly can about all the motorcyclists who have taken this trip and put up blogs about it--I ran into several reports here, and at AVDriders.

And I think I'm going to do it.

I've gotten a lot of negativity from places I've posted preliminarily (the scooter group keeps talking about how I'm going to be murdered, because mexico isn't safe, making jokes about how 'he's not afraid of the banditos'), but hoping you all have a bit more level head about this.

I'm planning to drive down to Costa Rica, and find someone I trust, and leave it with them while I go on for a couple months further on south pas the Darien Gap. The reason I picked Costa Rica is that, from what I read, they don't stamp your passport for vehicle import--but can anyone confirm that this plan is ok? Maybe some other papers would be problematic leaving the country months and months later?

I can't tell what the final word on insurance is. I just want whatever is bare-minimum to get me legal--does ever country in CA sell you basic required stuff at the border? I plan to spend a month or two in CA total, 3 or 4 months in SA, and then 3 weeks or so on the way back up.

I've got a lock for the bike, combination lock--it's basically a beefy bicycle lock, advertised as being heavy duty enough for a scooter/motorcycle as well. Is running it through the tire and a stationary object enough, or should I attach it some other way?

Anyone know of a way to put panniers on a scooter, or if people actually do that? I guess I could go cloth panniers if I had to, but it'd be great if I could leave them locked on somehow like the hardboxes everyone has on their BMW's here.

Most importantly, what should I bring along for the scooter to maintain it? If I gave myself a 10lb scooter survival kit, what should I put in it? I plan to have a small gas tank (1/2 gallon?) and oil on me, of course--should I bring a spark plug, or assume I can just get one there if necessary? Or will replacing a spark plug conceivably be something that kills my bike and strands me, and having a spare will enable me to quickly replace it and keep going? Etc. I'm not a mechanic, but I'm handy. i can change oil, spark plug, do basic stuff. Helped a friend rebuild his old '69 corvette once, among other odds and ends that have had me looking at a motor's innards.

I've never taken a long trip, other than that 350 mile one-day trip, on a moto. What do I need to know? What type of maintenance should I be keeping? I know to check the oil, but how often on a ride like this, and how often should I expect to change it? How long will tires last? As far as I can tell, riding it stead at 80% of its power should actually be better for the engine than stereotypical scooter driving, and I shouldn't drive at night. I won't be driving at night. I've read a ton about driving in Mexico itself (blinkers aren't the same thing, Green angles are awesome, people make crazy passes, etc.), so I'm not without knowledge, just... trying to get a nod of approval.

I'll be traveling extremely light--just a 60 liter backpack, plus whatever the scooter needs.

Worst case scenario, I sell it for a couple hundred bucks and continue on backpacking. Fine. It was a give-away to me anyways.

Thanks for your help.

Dear Fintip,

Bravo! You will have a blast on your little scooter south of the border. You have the right attitude. Ride her 'til she blows. Although there are plenty of small engine mechanics in Latin America should you have mechanical problems along the way. Don't listen to the naysayers that have likely never been riding through Mexico and Central America. What do they know? I rode my 250 dirtbike down to Panama and back a couple years ago and had a hootin' good time. Go for it!

As for your questions, Costa Rica allows you to enter for 90 days before having to leave. So you can park it there for up to three months time. So you would have no problem parking it there if you intend to head further south for up to 3 months.

As far as insurance, the only countries that require insurance from Texas to Costa Rica are Nicaragua and Costa Rica. It is sold at the border when you enter both countries. When I went it was between 10 and 20 dollars in each of those countries, so not much really. Insurance is optional in Mexico, Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras.

As far as tools, I would take the basics for removing the tire and repairing flats which should include patch kit, tire irons, tire pump and the ability to change out a flat. Proper wrench for changing oil, tightening loose bolts. A spare spark plug or 2 and spark plug wrench. There are plenty of places along the gringo trail to find minor parts and tools so you don't need to bring the kitchen sink.

The main idea is to travel light and don't bring along expensive things you would hate to lose. As far as how to pack and what tools to bring, I think you would benefit from reading this travel story:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ng-world-60100

As far as other advice, I would recommend following the Latin style of riding slow underpowered scooters towards the right shoulder to allow faster vehicles to easily pass you. Don't pass up a gas station. No fun pushing a scooter. It is fine to push your scooter into most guest house lobbies or your room for overnight secure parking.

Have fun!

Kindest regards,
John Downs

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If by being booed off the stage you mean a hearty round of applause, then yes you will be booed off the stage. ALL forms of motorcycle travel are encouraged here.


Don't think. Just do it.

Sigh!!! The usual crap coming from those who've never actually left the false sense of safety of their home towns or who've never ventured beyond the fence of their all inclusive resort. None of the places on the way down are horrendously dangerous. There are definitely problems with crime in certain areas but in my 25,500km round trip voyage from Victoria, BC to Yaviza, Panama I encountered only extremely friendly, helpful, curious and generous individuals everywhere. Don't get frightened by what the sensationalist media focuses on, especially the US media. The same media could easily make Canada into a very scary country by only reporting our murders, shootings of police officers, gang turf wars etc. What complicates things is that Mexico does have an extremely high murder rate due to the ongoing drug wars. Tourists are not targeted by the drug cartels so the actual risk to a traveler is very substantially lower than what the murder rate might otherwise indicate ...most of the murders are drug related.

Washington, DC has a higher murder rate than Mexico City.


My experience in 2010 was:


Nicaragua ...Mandatory and sold at the border. The customs agent wanted to see the certificate before issuing the temporary import permit.

Costa Rica ...pretty much the same as Nicaragua

Panama ...also like Nicaragua and Costa Rica. They wouldn't give me the import permit until I walked around the corner to buy insurance

Belize ...Mandatory but not sold right at the border. At Melchor de Mencos border you can buy it a few hundred metres after crossing into Belize. The customs agent made 100% sure that I understood that I had to stop to buy the insurance. I was never pulled over but I hear from others who've been pulled over that the police will check for insurance papers.

All others ...not mandatory and more than likely not readily available anyway, except for Mexico. For Mexico you can buy insurance online, in southern US towns, or from insurance agents after you cross the border. There is confusion as to whether it's mandatory or not. My understanding is that it's mostly not mandatory (but highly recommended) in most states. But I remember finding something during a Google search about one or two states having made it mandatory.

A lock will help but it's only going to stop the laziest of thieves. During my 3 month trip my bike was only parked on the street for one night in a semi ghost town way high up in the mountains where the only access is through a 2km tunnel. There was otherwise always a secure parking area available. A locked compound, once with video surveillance; hotel lobbies; a hidden parking area with an armed guard; etc, etc.

I absolutely love your attitude.



...Michelle
www.scrabblebiker.com

You'll have a great time. I have hosted over 70 travellers over the last 6 or 7 years. There is no connection between the size of the bike and the amount of fun. There is a connection between the size of the bike and the cost of the trip. The bigger the bike the more expensive everything is.
You will fit right into little Mexican towns as you will be riding the typical bike of the locals and not some monster machine.
If you need a place to stay in Mex City just tell me.

Excellent - I am sure you can do it if you set your mind to it.

Here is the story of two Danes who rode a couple of Honda 100cc Cubs all the way from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego. I'm sure you can ride a shorter distance with a bigger engine!

You meet the nicest people on a HONDA

I wrote them an email a couple of years ago and asked them if they found the 100cc bikes too slow or too small for the trip. Here is the reply I received:
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Hey Fintip,

Yep, just do it. Make sure she's good before you go, take the very minimum of basics and then just ride. A few of us are riding across the Sahara and down to The Gambia from London on Honda C90s ( think they're called Passports over your way) leaving this Saturday. We're only taking minimum kit and plan is to just get on with it. Good luck!

Belle

The 125 Overland brigade gets bigger every day!

As for scooter panniers, I recommend getting a cheap set of throwovers, it is less hassle than you would think. Either that, or even cheaper, just use a regular rucksack bungeed to the seat if you're not planning to take a pillion. That option also has the benefit of giving you a backrest (which long days of 125 touring make you appreciate!)

Birdy

PS - Belle - I'm envious! I rode that route a few years ago on a C90 too, wish I was going with you! Have lots of fun.

Good on ya, a lot of people actually believe you can't do a trip like that unless you have at BMW GS Adventure Dark. If you keep a blog, let me know
By the way, Garry is a great guy so call in if you can.

Paul

My hat's off to any adventurer on a scooter.
I saw a honda ruckus up on the Dalton hwy, a down in El Chalten AR met a german fellow going rtw on a cl70 he bought in Pakistan.
In France years ago I had 50cc Motobecane on which I had travelling aspirations, never got past Monaco.
Go for it.