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Am I screwed in Thailand?

Evening to all,

I crossed today from Laos to Thailand via Muang Ngeun to Thailand.
Border official stamped my Carnet in Thailand side and did not give any additional customs form!
When I entered first time to Thailand from Nepal (arrived to Bangkok) custom just made a copy of the Carnee and did not actually stamp original carnet.

From Thailand I will continue to Malaysia in 2 weeks.

So, am I screwed or not when I try to leave Thailand with my bike next time?

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you dont need a carnet for malaysia so id say no...
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you dont need a carnet for malaysia so id say no...
Hi sydneycraig,

Actually I need to ask Carnet stamp from Malaysia, because I will head from Malaysia to Indonesia.

I am just wondering if I have any problems to export my bike from Thailand since my carnet was stamped in Thailand border (normally they do not stamp carnet, just make a copy) and no customs forms were filled.

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Just came to Bangkok from Nan, 450km in heavy rain now need some
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Hi the importend thing is to have the exit stamp in the carnet so if a country claims the import tax you can proof the bike has left the country allready:

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[QUOTE=ta-rider;414223]Hi the importend thing is to have the exit stamp in the carnet so if a country claims the import tax you can proof the bike has left the country allready:

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Hi,
normally if you enter Thailand they give you a white form "Temporary Import Permit" to fill out. That little border post at the top of Nan province might not even have heard about it! Did you have to wake up the officer?

But I know of friends who entered the country on the carnet and had no problems exiting.
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I left Malaysia 10 days ago. You need a Carnet in Malaysia unles your a resident of Thailand, Laos or Singapore & your bikes registered in one of these countries. Just make sure that Thai customs finalise their page when you leave Thailand. The border crossing south of Satun isn't usually as busy as others can be. A little more relaxed there too, but still very thorough. The insurance office is on the right as you approach the crossing about 100 meters before the gate. You'll need insurance, photocopies of vehicle registration & ownership papers, & a photo of bike with licence plate visible in order to obtain your ICP (International Circulation Permit) for Malaysia. Cost is $0. free. It's a Malaysian thing.

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I left Malaysia 10 days ago. You need a Carnet in Malaysia. Just make sure that Thai customs finalise their page when you leave Thailand..

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Yes you do need for Malaysia. What finalisation of paper work at Thai Customs? I take it you mean the TIP?

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Hi Again,

I have applied to the Malaysian Automobile Association for a Carnet, I emailed two of there offices, anyway one of the offices said they can't issue a carnet for a UK registered vehicle and the other said they could as long as I got a letter from the RAC in the UK saying that they no long issue carnet's I have done that and I am at the point where they have now asked for a copy of my vehicle registration document and a vehicle valuation which I sent them yesterday, the vehicle valuation which is the price I purchased the vehicle for from Avon and Summerset Police is for £3300 pounds. I will keep you posted as to what happens next.

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New custom rules

Thai custom rules have changed dramatically a few weeks ago. No more easy "white paper", but a complex set of rules including a bank-garantee that will be lost if the vehicle is not exported in 6 months.
I am not sure how and when this will be implemented, but keep your ears open.
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Exclamation The new law as it is written

A temporary import of personal vehicles for a short visit e.g. a motor vehicle, motorcycle, yacht, sports boat, or fishing vessel, etc. into Thailand by owners shall be grant tax/duty relief provided that they are to be re-exported within 1-2 months but not exceeding six months. Any persons intending to temporarily import personal vehicles e.g. a motor vehicle, motorcycle, yacht, sports boat, or fishing vessel, etc. have to closely observe the following Customs regulations and conditions:
  • Documents: The minimum documents required for a temporary import of personal vehicles consist of:
  • A Special Goods Declaration and 5 duplicates;
  • A Vehicle Registration Certificate;
  • An Identification card and passport of the master of the vehicle, including an international driving license;
  • A Letter of Attorney, in case where the master of the vehicle does not own the vehicle;
  • An application form for the temporary import of personal vehicles;
  • Evidence of purchase e.g. a proforma invoice, invoice, etc;
  • A Certificate of Legal Entity;
  • A Re-Export Contract; and
  • Other relevant documents (if any).
  • Clearance Procedures for a Temporary Import of Personal Vehicles
      • An importer/agent submits the Declaration Form and all supporting documents to the Customs office/house at the port of entry. It is also required that all fittings and accessories of the vehicle as well as passengers and accompanying luggage are declared to Customs at the time of entry.
      • Customs verifies the Declaration Form and all supporting documents, allocates the Declaration number, and then set up a cash deposit or bank guarantee covering the full amount of liable taxes and duties.
      • The importer/agent places the cash deposit or bank guarantee at a Cashier Office.
Deposit of Guarantee
        • An importer is allowed to deposit a guarantee in a form of either cash deposit or a bank guarantee. However, for a temporary import of motorcycles via the Bangkok Port Customs Office and the Suvanabhumi International Airport Cargo Clearance Customs Office, the importer is allowed to offer himself as a guarantee.
        • In case where the importer is unable to deposit a guarantee either in a form of a cash deposit or a bank guarantee, he/she may request the embassy to issue a letter to Customs granting approval of the importer’s self-guarantee.
        • The amount of a cash deposit and a guarantee calculated by Customs is determined on the basis of all liable taxes and duties to be paid to Customs.
        • The importer/agent presents evidence of deposited guarantee to Customs.
        • Customs inspects the vehicle and personal belongings, then, returns one copy of the Simplified Goods Declaration to the importer/agent. Please note that the importer is required to retain the copy of the Simplified Goods Declaration and return it to Customs upon exportation.
  • Clearance Procedures for a Temporary Export of Personal Vehicles
      • An exporter/agent submits the copy of the Simplified Goods Declaration issued by Customs upon importation to the Customs office/house at the port of exit; and
      • Customs inspects the vehicle and personal belongings, records the re-exported vehicle, writes off the import registration electronically, then, discharges the cash deposit or bank guarantee posted at the time of importation to the exporter/agent.
  • Failure to Re-Export the Vehicle within the Time-Limit
      • In case where the importer fails to re-export the vehicle within the time-limit as set out in the bond and security paper, Customs will impose the full amount of a cash deposit or bank guarantee posted at the time of importation without any reduction.
Imposition of Guarantee:
  • When the temporary time-limit set in the bond and security paper is due, or an importer provides a written notice to Customs that he does not wish to re-export the vehicles temporarily imported, Customs will impose the full amount of liable taxes and duties as indicated without any reduction.
  • In case where motor vehicles or motorcycles are temporarily imported into Thailand for a short visit via the border points and to be re-exported at the conclusion of the visit, but the importer fails to do so within the time-limit as indicated in the bond and security paper, provided he/she does not intend to violate the regulations, a 100-Baht fine per day, but not exceeding1,000 Baht in total, shall be charged from the due date of the Contract.
  • In case where boats/vessels are temporarily brought into Thailand and to be re-exported at the conclusion of the visit, but the importer fails to do so within the time-limit as indicated in the bond and security paper, provided he/she does not intend to violate the regulations, a 500-Baht fine per day, but not exceeding 5,000 Baht in total, shall be charged from the due date of the Contract.
The term “yacht/ sports boat” means any boat used solely for pleasure or sports; but excluding those imported for commercial, military, and scientific research purposes. A master of a yacht/sports boat or fishing vessel from abroad is required to make an arrival and departure reports of such boat or vessel to Customs upon the arrival or departure, as the case may be.

(2) In case where an importer wants to extend the temporary allowance as set out in the bond and security paper, Customs may extend the time-limit to allow the vehicle to remain in Thailand for up to six months. In exceptional circumstances e.g. a broken engine, car accident, etc., the time-limit may be extended to more than six months but not exceeding eight months from the date of importation. The extension of the temporary allowance can be applied at a Customs House.
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