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So now you have changed and dont want to go into China? Great - then you dont need to go into Laos either. If youre plan is to going into Bhutan via Burma and India from Thailand you dont even have to bother about any vietnam rego on your thai purchased bike. The only thing you have to worry about is that you will need a guide and intinerary in Burma in addition to Bhutan. In addition you will need a Carnet to your thai plated bike to get it into India - which is totally impossible!

Sorry mister - your "plans" are so totally unrealistic I cant take you seriously at all.

Did you really think you could take a bike from China into Bhutan? Theres not even a bordercrossing between those countries.....

By the way - theres no problem taking a thai plated bike into Laos, absolutely no problems.
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So now you have changed and dont want to go into China? Great - then you dont need to go into Laos either. If youre plan is to going into Bhutan via Burma and India from Thailand you dont even have to bother about any vietnam rego on your thai purchased bike. The only thing you have to worry about is that you will need a guide and intinerary in Burma in addition to Bhutan. In addition you will need a Carnet to your thai plated bike to get it into India - which is totally impossible!

Sorry mister - your "plans" are so totally unrealistic I cant take you seriously at all.

Did you really think you could take a bike from China into Bhutan? Theres not even a bordercrossing between those countries.....

By the way - theres no problem taking a thai plated bike into Laos, absolutely no problems.

You are confused..

Thailand > vietnam > Thailand > Laos > China > Burma > India> Bhutan

Are you trying to demonstrate the notion, by your demeaning attitude, that there is no possible way that I can ride a honda wave through the countries in that order, that there is no process i could go through to make that a reality? You say this is unrealistic, and i call it laziness. There is a way, and i intend to figure it out.
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You are confused..

Thailand > vietnam > Thailand > Laos > China > Burma > India> Bhutan

Are you trying to demonstrate the notion, by your demeaning attitude, that there is no possible way that I can ride a honda wave through the countries in that order, that there is no process i could go through to make that a reality? You say this is unrealistic, and i call it laziness. There is a way, and i intend to figure it out.
Yeas I am. There is no way you can ride a bike in your mentioned land order. Please have a look at the map before you demonstrate your total lack of elementary geography knowledge. First of all - Thailand > Vietnam > Thailand you mention. Take a look at the map. Thailand and Vietnam doesnt share any border. You will need to cross Laos or Cambodia....and I would like to se you get a thai plated bike into Vietnam.
Secondly you write: Laos > China > Burma - there is no working international border between Burma nd China. Maybe in your head - but not in reality.
And where are you going to get a hold of a Carnet to your bike to get into India as there are no motor organisations in Thailand, Laos, Vietnam that hands out such documents.
Your plans are not realistic at all. Do yourself a favour and return to earth again and try to plan something possible.
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Yeas I am. There is no way you can ride a bike in your mentioned land order. Please have a look at the map before you demonstrate your total lack of elementary geography knowledge. First of all - Thailand > Vietnam > Thailand you mention. Take a look at the map. Thailand and Vietnam doesnt share any border. You will need to cross Laos or Cambodia....and I would like to se you get a thai plated bike into Vietnam.
Secondly you write: Laos > China > Burma - there is no working international border between Burma nd China. Maybe in your head - but not in reality.
And where are you going to get a hold of a Carnet to your bike to get into India as there are no motor organisations in Thailand, Laos, Vietnam that hands out such documents.
Your plans are not realistic at all. Do yourself a favour and return to earth again and try to plan something possible.
Sorry, typo, going through laos to get to vietnam and back through. I am reading online people who are driving into vietnam with thai license plate and had no problems.

as well have i heard of people crossing from china into burma, at muse. I am also seeing a clear pathway on a map. Where exactly are you getting your firm 100% facts from? I can't seem to find a reason why you turned so hostile, i'm simply here asking questions trying to find answers, no need to be so defensive.



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Looks like your knowledge is a bit outdated, mister?..
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You have heard of people crossing into Burma from China you say. Well - who where those people who crossed into there and when? By which kind of vehicle and vehicles plated where? Please answer this.

I am not hostile - I try to talk some sense into you, but seems thats a useless and or impossible effort.....

Crossing Myanmar it totally possible and I have already mentioned what it takes to do so earlier in this thread. Namely a guide, itinerary, accomodation, permits etc. I cant understand why youre trying to initiate that I have said thats impossible. But crossing Myanmar from the Thailand side and then entering India means your vehicle needs a Carnet. And thats impossible to get for a thai, Laos, Vietnam registrated bike. Can you tell me a bike fromThai, Laos or Vietnam that have got a Carnet?
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Sorry, typo, going through laos to get to vietnam and back through. I am reading online people who are driving into vietnam with thai license plate and had no problems.

as well have i heard of people crossing from china into burma, at muse. I am also seeing a clear pathway on a map. Where exactly are you getting your firm 100% facts from? I can't seem to find a reason why you turned so hostile, i'm simply here asking questions trying to find answers, no need to be so defensive.


Crossing Myanmar by motorcycle - now possible

Looks like your knowledge is a bit outdated, mister?..
i think its unfair to take this post as evidence to show that its all possible.

Yes, it looks possible, but is it enjoyable ? This is all arranged by a specialist tour company, with 4WD support, probably military minders and government officials.

I much prefer the story of the guys who bought 110cc scooters in Yangoon, rode them down the coast, stayed in peoples houses and then gave the scooters away at the other end. They had to battle and bribe military all the way down.

Goran is a well known person, He admins a facebook group ( I don't know him myself ) - Why not contact him and ask him directly how much his trips cost him ? I think you will be shocked at the reply.
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I can't seem to find a reason why you turned so hostile, i'm simply here asking questions trying to find answers, no need to be so defensive.



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Looks like your knowledge is a bit outdated, mister?..
This forum is to help people wanting to travel, not attack and belittle. If you can't be nice, move on to the next thread and say nothing. Especially when the thread is from a new forum member.

Rootless, I am researching a trip to China next year. There is much advice about what is required there. Much of it is outdated or incorrectly passed on from people who thought they knew requirements. If you want to go through China, here is a link with recent info that seems good.
Overlanding China: what you need to know BEFORE you go | Laura’s Travel Tales

Also look at another of her pages below:
Overlanding China: what you need to know when IN China | Laura’s Travel Tales

She says they didn't need an official guide. Only a national Chinese person as an escort, and only in Xinjiang and Tibet provinces.

Welcome to the HUBB and good luck with your planning.
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This forum is to help people wanting to travel, not attack and belittle. If you can't be nice, move on to the next thread and say nothing. Especially when the thread is from a new forum member.

Rootless, I am researching a trip to China next year. There is much advice about what is required there. Much of it is outdated or incorrectly passed on from people who thought they knew requirements. If you want to go through China, here is a link with recent info that seems good.
Overlanding China: what you need to know BEFORE you go | Laura’s Travel Tales

Also look at another of her pages below:
Overlanding China: what you need to know when IN China | Laura’s Travel Tales

She says they didn't need an official guide. Only a national Chinese person as an escort, and only in Xinjiang and Tibet provinces.

Welcome to the HUBB and good luck with your planning.
Those Laura posts are from nearly 2 years ago. Things change by the day/week in China and it all depends on who and when you speak to and which part of China.
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Those Laura posts are from nearly 2 years ago. Things change by the day/week in China and it all depends on who and when you speak to and which part of China.
Yes things change fast and are subject to individual interpretation. That probably won't change in our lifetime. I have been looking for what is necessary to ride legally for a 3 month trip. I want to travel alone. There is no single thread dedicated to the subject that I can find. I would like to see one that has regular updates from riders as they go through the process. And yes, they will be different depending on where they enter, where they come from, and how much the official had to drink the night before.

My link to Laura's info was to help the OP get started. It's not the bible. But it has a lot of great info.
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