Hi Guys ,

I am an Australian Citizen , but I also have permanent residency visa for Indonesia.



If I buy a road registered motorcycle in Australia .., and get a Carnet for it.

- I will also want to take that Australian registered motorcycle to Indonesia
(as well as other countries) .


Question : What is the maximum time limit the Indonesian Government will allow an overseas registered bike to remain in Indonesia on a Carnet ?


At this stage ..,
I would likely depart from Darwin Australia ..,

Then ship the bike from Darwin to Dili in East East Timor , then cross East Timor into West Timor Indonesia.

As long as the Carnet lasts. Until the Carnet expires I suppose.

I guess it would be more hazzle getting a Indo visa that outlast the Carnet...

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Hi Snakeboy ..,

I do already have a permanent resident visa for Indonesia (called a K.I.T.A.P) .., so the visa into Indonesia is not the problem.

I just need to know of any time limit restrictions and other fine print to be made aware of regarding bringing a foreign registered bike into Indonesia using a Carnet de passage. (ie; arriving into Indonesia via Timor Leste)

I will keep searching around for info .., but if anyone has any info to share, it will be highly appreciated - Thx

Ok - I didnt know you had some kind of recidency in Indo, good for you then.

What I wrote about a Carnet over here I do think is right. A Carnet is afaik issued with a one year validity. And thus if youre within that time limit you should be fine.

I spent 3,5 months in Indo on my norwegian plated bike on a Carnet. I entered from Malaysia and exited to East Timor. I got my entry and exit stamp in the Carnet as Im supposed to. But a little more than a year after I entered Indo the automobil organisation back home in Norway got an angry mail from the indonesian road/custom authorities stating that they couldnt see that I had left Indo within the year I had to spend there so they asked to get the deposit I had payed to get the Carnet transferred to them. So the Carnet issuing organisation forwarded that mail to me, and I had to take a scan of the out stamp in my Carnet and mail it back to my Carnet isssuer so they again could forward it to the Indo authoroties. And we never heard anymore from them!

Thus - a year or until the Carnet expire is the time you will get to have your bike in Indonesia. Pretty sure about that.

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Thx Snakeboy - yes I am guessing your were even lucky to get the correct stamp when you left Indo

- I am guessing the customs staff when you exited did not update their records , for example - their computer was broken, or it was too close to their lunch break, or something similar meaning updated information did not get sent to the relevant dept as it should have .., this happens here more often than not

.., from experience living here for so long and dealing with red tape - most times even those that work in various official or govt depts don't even know the correct procedures themselves , or the current procedures etc.

Also every time a new Govt gets voted into office, then all the rules change confusing staff even more.

Another thing I have noticed to is general laziness due to low wages where often staff (not all) are either too jaded and not bothered to perform their jobs efficiently or bothered make efforts to keep up to date with the latest regulations.

Sometimes staff don't get updated with the latest regulations themselves ,or they are not written clearly enough for staff to follow , or someone lost the document to explain the new rules etc , or the rules are incomplete , confusing and contradictory.

Staff who are unsure about certain procedures also find it personally embarrassing to admit they are unsure about something and refrain from asking superiors about rules or new procedures out of fear of being thought of as stupid ?

.., or perhaps the person that does know the correct procedure is away .., therefore many staff will just 'wing it' ie; just make something up and hope no one notices .

Then there are the staff who either want to lie and rip you off and extort money from you , and then there are the ones who also will not lift a finger without the under the table corruption/ motivation payment

This is why it is so hard here to get a correct answer, as most times the next person you deal with will tell you something completely different than the day before, which unfortunately is the reason why so many international companies steer clear of Indonesia .

Hi Davo Bali !
I hope to ship my Australian plated motorbike from Darwin to Indonesia. With a CPD carnet, is it easy to get my bike out of Indo port customs by myself, or it is better to find a local agency to deal with? How did you make it, Could you share me some information ? The agency's name, contact email or telephone, the total price... Anything will be helpful ! Thank you

The maximum a vehicle is allowed in any country on a carnet is 180 days, whether Indonesian customs allow any flexibility on that I don't know but in theory they will not.