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Thanks for the tips Freedom Traveler. Hope my decision to not bother with renewing my IDP after many years of slavishly following the rules doesn't come back and bite me. Perhaps they will accept 6 expired ones as evidence of good intentions.

Yes Groschi, that was always one of my concerns when I was hesitating following all the advice that Brazil was open slather - what happens if I get caught inside when they close the gate again. Lets hope they are sympathetic.
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Yes Groschi, that was always one of my concerns when I was hesitating following all the advice that Brazil was open slather - what happens if I get caught inside when they close the gate again. Lets hope they are sympathetic.
Tony et al. It's impossible to get caught inside if Brasil 'closes the gate again'. There are many crossing points where you can just drive on in. Many. I've seen them. I've used them.
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Yes agreed but then there can be a problem getting into the next country because some of them look for the exit stamp of the last country and keep flipping pages until they find it. Possible if Immigration and Customs reamain completely separate, but I imagine it canb't be far off when they share databases.
Hopefully anyone who has already left their vehicle there in the expectation that the no-TIP deal would continue will be able to find one of those open borders.

Anyway, presumably no longer an issue provided all border crossings are once again issuing TIPs
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I have crossed to Brasil today from Bolivia via San Matias crossing. Receite Federal only wrote down car data and did not give me the TIP. I have forgotten to ask them about it as I was not aware that they were the customs guys... Once in Caceres Policia Federal did not know if TIP was necessary or not and since local branch of the customs was closed (Sunday) I could not ask them as well.

In two-three days I will be in Cuiaba and will ask there (hope they will not send me back to the border to get my TIP!).
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Tofel, Don't ask for a TVIP in Cuiaba. Don't ask anywhere. I've never been asked by a Brasil official on exit for the TVIP during the time when TVIP's were issued - they simply don't even care. The problem is only if you have a TVIP, then you need to get it stamped out at exit in order to clear your name in their computer.
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I wonder how consistent this will be, procedures before were also never the same, every bordercrossing was different, at some you got a TIP, at others they did not know what you were talking about. Police never asked about it as they did\do not know that it is different than for Mercosul vehicles which do not require a TIP.
Marker, any idea where I can read what countries don't require a TIP?
I am traveling with a camper, trailer and bike with Chilean plates and will leave all in Brazil for the next six month until I come back here.
I would love to know if its legal with the plates I have.
Otherwise I will go to Iguacu once I get back cross over and back to have 3 month traveling without worries.

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Just an update --

We entered Brazil a few days ago at Inapari, and I was interested to see what happened as far as the TIP went since recent reports that they had stated issuing them again.. Aduana palmed us straight through to Immigration and we were served by an Federal Police officer about to head off to Australia on official duties so he was keen on practicing his Australian drawl.
I queried him on the situation regarding leaving vehicles in Brazil and he said nothing has really changed and it has always been the case that even if they don't always issue paper TIPs at all borders, there is a very good chance that when you leave, they will want to see your vehicle registration papers to prove you are entitled to be driving the vehicle. The license plate details were recorded on our visitors entry slip this time so that constitutes a record of our entry. Not always checked, but often enough. AND there was never any relaxation of the obligation to take your vehicle out with you, just they didn't bother checking so rigorously. One of those cases we strike all the time where it isn't their job to make sure we obey the rules, just their job to catch us when we do break them so it is always on us to know what the rules are.
We'll leave our camper in Uruguay and save potential hassles.
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Marker, any idea where I can read what countries don't require a TIP?
I am traveling with a camper, trailer and bike with Chilean plates and will leave all in Brazil for the next six month until I come back here.
I would love to know if its legal with the plates I have.
Otherwise I will go to Iguacu once I get back cross over and back to have 3 month traveling without worries.

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Having Mercosul plates it should not be a problem in Mercosul countries
But even then somerimes we get at some borders a TIP, especially in Argentina they are keen and also register your car at immigration. Brazil,paraguay and Uruguay are ok. Here in Brazil there are many argentinians 'living' here for a year or more and have their argentinian plates still.
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