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Mount Fitzroy, Argentinian Patagonia



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Ive been looking at prices in Chile, and they dont seem so bad, compared to Denmark (we have up to 170% markup registration tax on some vehicles, I dont know if it applies to motorcyles).

I dont know whether I need to register and insure the bike(s) in Denmark and then ship/air them to an SA country. We will also look into germany as its just a hop across the border.
If you buy the bike in Denmark, you register it in Denmark.
If you ride it on the road in Europe, you insure it in Europe.
When you get to SA you insure in that country (depening on if it is required and if you can find some where to buy it, this changes from country to country ( a bit of searching will find the answers ))

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But regarding Chile, the problem seems to be time, we dont want to spend 1-2 weeks unless we have to (I dont know how long it will take to ride the length of chile, as I noticed you can get the printout at any civil registry office for international travel).
Chile is approx 5000kms end to end. How long it takes is up to you and you alone.

Yes you can register the bike in cities other than Santiago, it takes approx 10-12 working days for the "permisio de circulation" which you cannot (in theory) leave without.

If time is an issue, fly your own bike there.

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Also I noticed currency wise, would we be able to JUST use USD from chile all the way to USA? It seems odd (from a european standpoint).

At this point price is 2nd on your priorities, time being the first.
Where did you get that from ? Yes the Chileans like to quote stuff in USD, they understand the value of a dollar and know everyone else does. But they mainly like payment in CHP. Yes, take dollars with you as they are easy to change at borders, then use ATMs to withdraw cash as they are every where.

However, there are issues currently with Argentina, we could not get money from ATMs in the southern Chubut region (vias/amex/matercard) and neither could a lot of bikers we met, it appears Ok around Barioloche and above. Again, take dollars and use the black market there.

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I was told in Brazil it will take 3-5 max to buy and register a motorcycle there for around 100 euro (compared to 60-70euro +- 1.5% of motorcycle price in chile), although the motorcycle might be more expensive.

On another note, what sort of motorbike should we look for to ride? I see KLRs are propped up a lot but those are too expensive I think.
Are there any brands or models, or makes that are cheap, reliable and easy to fix? Or should I look for something between 150 - 300 cc?
KLRs are ok, I just used one in Patagonia. However they are not good at altitude (unless you want to work on the carb). I would suggest a bike with fuel injection like the Yam Tenere or the Aprilia Pegaso (same motor).

Try the Honda Falcon NX400 for a small bike, but it can come down to what you are used to riding and how good you are with mechanics. The cheap Chinese bikes often have poor metal and bearings so will not last as long.

A small bike is probably more uncomfortable to pack and ride. YMMV.


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Unfortunately I am very new to traveling in SA, and Ive never owned a motorcycle (I have to learn to drive before I go too). So I might have my priorities the wrong way around, or missing stuff.
Oh what fun you are going to have :-)

I did just meet a young Norwegian couple in Arica (north Chile). Neither had ridden motorbikes before but bought 2 chinese (Takasaki) 150cc models in Santiago.

She has no bike licence.

When I met them they had ridden 2500kms and asked me about the "loud metal noise from the rear". This was the chains rubbing against the guards, they had not adjusted them at all and they were bone dry.

I showed them how to adjust the chains (it took 40 "1 face" turns on 1 bike). I had to explain about lubing the chains and thought it would be a good idea if they went and bought some tools (the bikes had not come with any).

Neither did they have any registration plates, it turned out they had not done *any* paper work which meant officially they did not own the bikes. None of the borders in this region would have allowed them out.

Their next stop was La Paz, I really must check to see if they have made it :-)

This goes to show how far you can get with no planning.
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At any given time, there are several bikes that travelers are selling at the end of their trips south. These bikes have the gear for traveling already on them, they can be had for less then they could be built for. They are usually registered in the US. the details of changing ownership has been discussed in many threads here. This gives you the option of selling the bike in the US at the end of your trip with no problem. It also helps fellow HU members get rid of their bikes.
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