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Oh, and regarding border crossings, Franta, the one east of Torres Del Paine national park (lost my Chilean map and can't remember the name) was a pretty sleepy affair with several KM of dirt road between the border posts.
Paso Laurita, I believe. Much more tranquilo than Paso Dorotea (also near Pto Natales)

However, that's not exactly heading towards Ushuaia (but not far out of the way). Depending on the river, crossing on TDF at Paso Bellavista instead of Paso San Sebastian (along Ruta 3) gives you another option for a calm crossing - without a computer system (as of early 2013) - and a nice dirt track.
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Looks like The border crossing at Rio Bella Vista isn't open until 1 Nov.....

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Like what has been said before, you can not import a bike into Chile, you'll get 3 months each entry and that's it. (I've asked the Aduana every way as I'm now living there, trying to get it in as offorad only but no joy)

Just transfer of papers to your name in Canada, then they ride to remote border and don't stop on the Chile side, ride into Argentina and pick up a TIP and never return to Chile with the bike. Nothing is impossible.

I've haven't crossed the land border in Chile yet, how does this TIP work? Reading other posts it contains Make, Model, licence plate and VIN, anything else? It must be computerised to show a foreign bike leaving? I assume it different TIPs for Chile and Argentina, not linked? Is there any paperwork for the bike to show on the Arg side that relates to it leaving Chile or vice versa?

I'm hatching a plan that relates to this post. Also anybody know what crossing don't have the Aduans directly on the route through, ones which involve drivers making the effort rather than check point crossings? Read about the Libertadores pass on this tread...ride with a purpose works, nice one!
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he leido tu idea y todos los post que han escrito, yo vivo en rio grande tierra del fuego paso varias veces al año la frontera chilena.argentina y quisiera decirte un par de cosas.
la posibilidad de pasar con papeles fuera de orden son muy remotas el agente de aduana es de revisar todo por lo general.por otro lado con respecto a punta arenas es libre comercio pero para empresas radicadas alli en forma oficial . lo que tiene de ventaja chile con respecto a argentina es que puedes ingresar vehiculos usados ya sean autos o motos y eso puede ser favorable para lo que intentas hacer. si tu quieres me puedo dirigir al consulado chileno en rio grande y consultar bien tu inqietud.y responderte que dicen.
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he leido tu idea y todos los post que han escrito, yo vivo en rio grande tierra del fuego paso varias veces al año la frontera chilena.argentina y quisiera decirte un par de cosas.
la posibilidad de pasar con papeles fuera de orden son muy remotas el agente de aduana es de revisar todo por lo general.por otro lado con respecto a punta arenas es libre comercio pero para empresas radicadas alli en forma oficial . lo que tiene de ventaja chile con respecto a argentina es que puedes ingresar vehiculos usados ya sean autos o motos y eso puede ser favorable para lo que intentas hacer. si tu quieres me puedo dirigir al consulado chileno en rio grande y consultar bien tu inqietud.y responderte que dicen.
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Any chance of writing in English so that the other 99.9% can understand what you're saying? Sadly, the overwhelming majority of non Spanish speaking hubb users won't bother to put your words into a translation program to see if your comment is relevant.

I just tried (I'm at work) and Google Translate is blocked by our firewall!
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Per Google translator:

I read your idea and every post they have written, I live in rio grande tierra del fuego step several times a year and would like the border chilena.argentina tell you a few things.
the possibility of going through papers out of order are very remote customs agent is to check everything I general.por other side with respect to free trade is punta arenas but for companies located there officially. it has an advantage over Argentina chili is that you can enter used vehicles whether cars or bikes and that may be favorable to what you're doing. if you want me I can direct the Chilean consulate in Rio Grande and consult your inqietud.y good answer they say.
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It is very hard to leave the country without being checked. Chilean officers pay a lot of attention to papers, the Free Zone in Chile is only "free" for resident companies. If you want I can try to find out more in the Chilean Consulate, just let me know exactly what you plan to do and what documents you have.
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I would not change plate and title only come with.power of authority or at least bring copys of the old documents as well: Advent&# xff55;re motorbike trip around Latin America - Chile and Argentina
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It is very hard to leave the country without being checked. Chilean officers pay a lot of attention to papers, the Free Zone in Chile is only "free" for resident companies. If you want I can try to find out more in the Chilean Consulate, just let me know exactly what you plan to do and what documents you have.
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Any chance of writing in English so that the other 99.9% can understand what you're saying? Sadly, the overwhelming majority of non Spanish speaking hubb users won't bother to put your words into a translation program to see if your comment is relevant.

I just tried (I'm at work) and Google Translate is blocked by our firewall!
Bit rude Chris. Bloke tries to help and you give him a roasting for not writing in English. Contrary to your arrogant assertions, I'd bet everyone else reading this thread DID put it through Google Translate.

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Bit rude Chris. Bloke tries to help and you give him a roasting for not writing in English. Contrary to your arrogant assertions, I'd bet everyone else reading this thread DID put it through Google Translate.

May not be perfect but good enough

"Bit grosero Chris. Bloke intenta ayudarle y darle un tostado por no escribir en Inglés. Contrariamente a sus afirmaciones arrogantes, apostaría todo el mundo la lectura de este hilo lo puso a través de Google Translate."

Roasting? Wot? Not rude nor arrogant at all, neither in terms of how I said it nor what I said.
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Franta,

Itching to know the outcome of your plate-swap. Have you made it into Argentina yet? (Hoping for a good 'border busting' story!!!)

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Hi everybody,
First, I would like to apologize for late response and reply to my questions.
In Punta Arenas I went to the regional aduana office with my request to change TIP to my name and my new licence plate. Like I wrote at the beginning of this thread, I had an Alberta bill of sale, new title and registration papers with a new licence plate translated and notarized in Alberta.
At the Punta Arenas aduana headquarters, I met a young officer who spoke excellent English (my luck) so I was able to explain in detail what I needed. He talked to his "senior colleagues" about my request for approximately 10 minutes and I was told that they had never done anything like that before. However, they did say that all my papers were legit and they made a phone call to the office in the port where I went to get a new TIP. I took a taxi and in the port they printed out a new TIP with my name and licence plate.
I do not know if I just lucked out because they (all Chilean custom officials) just won a strike with substantial pay rise and everybody was very happy. In that case, my timing was perfect ))))
At the beginning of this thread, there was discussion about small "remote" border crossings not being computerized. I crossed many times between Chile and Argentina and I was in the system every time. The same was in rest of South America.
Thank you all for your help and I hope that my "TIP" experience might help somebody in the future.

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And there was me, hoping for an epic tale of busting borders in the dead of night, disguised as an 800cc Llama......
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